Posted on 09/14/2025 9:36:21 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Did Charlie Kirk say it is acceptable for people to die so we can have guns? Of course not. He actually gave a highly reasonable speech on the necessity of the right to keep and bear arms.
We have seen an insane number of people commenting that it is perfectly fine and even wonderful that Charlie Kirk was assassinated because he justified gun violence. First of all, it is not right to laugh and dance about the murder of a young father in any case, but especially not in this case, when leftists are as usual grossly misrepresenting what he said.
Instead of looking at some of the lies about Charlie — I think we have all seen enough ugliness this week to last us our lifetimes — I want to highlight his argument. And it is worth noting that Europe is experiencing an explosion of violent crime, and Europe has very strict gun laws. The only thing banning guns does is ensure that only the bad people and the evil government officials have weapons (as Thomas Jefferson noted).
Kirk called himself “a big Second Amendment fan” and cleared up some misconceptions: “The Second Amendment is not about hunting. I love hunting. The Second Amendment is not even about personal defense. That is important. The Second Amendment is there, God forbid, so that you can defend yourself against a tyrannical government.”
Kirk continued, “If that talk scares you — ‘wow, that's radical, Charlie, I don't know about that’ — well then, you have not really read any of the literature of our Founding Fathers.” As Noah Webster put it, “The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed.”
(Excerpt) Read more at pjmedia.com ...
Kirk advised critics of gun rights to read some 20th century history. He discussed the fantasy of assuming taking guns away from law abiding citizens would solve gun crime (see shootings in gun-controlled Chicago), suggesting such people are in “alternative universe” and “just don’t want to face reality that governments tend to get tyrannical and that if people need an ability to protect themselves and their communities and their families.”
Then, Kirk addressed the fact that “having an armed citizenry comes with a price, and that is part of liberty. Driving comes with a price. [Almost] 50,000 …people die on the road every year. That’s a price. You get rid of driving, you’d have 50,000 less auto fatalities. But we have decided that the benefit of driving — speed, accessibility, mobility, having products, services — is worth the cost of 50,000 people dying on the road.”
He was not, of course, saying that these lives don’t matter; he was simply noting that every aspect of our life is a risk-benefit analysis. Before we had cars, people died in horse-riding accidents, and before we had guns, people were stabbed and beaten to death. Many, like Iryna Zarutska, still are. The problem lies in human sin, not in the tools used. We don’t say that a Honda Civic killed a man or that a knife was responsible for cutting someone’s finger off. These are mere tools or machines. And it is also important to note that cars, for instance, save lives, as we can now rush people to the hospital faster than ever before. So do guns. The majority of mass shootings occur in gun-free zones.
Sometimes ignorance is a leftist's best friend.
JMO, YMMV
Liberals lie about everything because they can’t debate the facts.
He/She must be refering to the wrong person. Clinton said the same but not for guns but for more gun laws.
Charlie Kirk was killed for speaking truth. The left hates truth.
Bingo. On another board I highlighted at length the selectively edited quote about how he didn’t believe in empathy....not because he lacked compassion for others which is what the Leftists want you to think....but because he did not believe you could “feel their pain”. You could not step into their shoes because you were not them. He said he believed in sympathy rather than empathy - which casts that in an entirely different light.
Just as he said he supported the 2nd amendment because it saved lives ultimately....they of course left that out to pretend he callously didn’t care about lives lost in order to keep the 2nd amendment.
Pay any price for liberty.
What is so hard to understand about that?
The stats show we could reduce violence by nearly 80% through profiling and closely controlling blacks and Hispanics......but that is “wrong”.
The “white” crime rate is virtually nil.
The Sodomite Leftists want our guns not because of crime, but so they can kill us and our families without being hurt themselves.
The Left always intentionally propagates lies. It’s always been thus. Marxists and neo-Marxists lie.
Current events in Great Britain, France, Germany, Brazil, and many other countries make the wisdom of the founding fathers clear.
Freedoms have costs and responsibilities. Legal tobacco comes with the cost of cancer and heart disease. Legal alcohol comes with drunk driving deaths. Legal swimming pools come with accidental drownings.
Imagine getting fired, and quite possibly never getting hired again in your chosen field again, for posting (or sharing) Vile shit about Charlie Kirk’s Murder and you never once heard a thing he said. You went on opinions of other Woke LibTaints who probably never heard a word he said. Well, now that you have all of the time you need (and before they turn off your electricity for non-payment) go to You Tube and see the irony of a vile, unhinged moron (you) telling and retelling lies about a truly good person (Charlie) and reflect on your life choices.
Charlie was right
It is unfortunate that he said it in a way the the Haters could use an exact quote taken out of context to justify their hate
They won’t stop
Their opening gambit is always slander, and nothing they say can be taken at face value,
The left is completely ignorant of Kirk and what he said about anything…
Medical doctors in the US directly cause the deaths of >250k people annually…does the left think the medical profession should be eliminated?
Legal alcohol comes with drunk driving deaths.
Liberty allows you to choose to drive under the influence.
Legal swimming pools come with accidental drownings.
Liberty allows you to choose whether or not you follow pool safety guidelines.
Freedoms have costs and responsibilities.
As do liberties.
Leftists telling lies what else is new?
The only thing the in voluntary confiscation of private firearms would do inspire a dirty little war like in central america o Belfast Northern Ireland during the “Troubles”. & I know were the Democrat offices are at & stuff happens.
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