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Like Washington and Jefferson, he championed liberty. Unlike the founders, he freed his slaves
CNN ^ | September 5, 2021 | Eliott C. McLaughlin

Posted on 08/30/2025 8:58:56 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica

It was 230 years ago Sunday that Robert Carter III, the patriarch of one of the wealthiest families in Virginia, quietly walked into a Northumberland County courthouse and delivered an airtight legal document announcing his intention to free, or manumit, more than 500 slaves.

He titled it the “deed of gift.” It was, by far, experts say, the largest liberation of Black people before President Abraham Lincoln signed the District of Columbia Emancipation Act and Emancipation Proclamation more than seven decades later.

On September 5, 1791, when Carter delivered his deed, slavery was an institution, a key engine of the new country’s economy. But many slaveholders – including founding fathers George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and James Madison, who knew Carter – had begun to voice doubts.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism
KEYWORDS: 1619project; abolition; manumission; northumberlandcounty; robertcarteriii; slaves; virginia

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This is horrific 1619 Project half-history, but it is important to consider Carter's life and choices and what they mean for us.


1 posted on 08/30/2025 8:58:56 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica
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To: ProgressingAmerica

I dunno. If it was so wrong why did they have to die before they freed them?


2 posted on 08/30/2025 9:04:11 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: DiogenesLamp; jeffersondem; woodpusher; Renfrew; wardaddy; Pelham; BroJoeK
Robert Carter III was not an abolitionist like many of the Founding Fathers were, but one very important aspect of his life is crucial in establishing the very same fact that has already been exposed. Robert Carter III became a patriot, they coincide.

Robert Carter III as an Englishman was a slave owner. Robert Carter III as an American was a manumissionist.

Now, you might and you should ask yourself, "why does this formula keep repeating itself over and over and over again in provable U.S. founding-era history?" And also, "Why can't I find any loyalist abolitionists?"

No, I suspect none of you cares about Robert Carter III and I don't necessarily care either besides it proves the trend. But we all better for sure care about 1619 Project false flag history, cause its full of lies about the United States and it is taught in the American schools all across the country.

3 posted on 08/30/2025 9:05:04 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (We cannot vote our way out of these problems. The only way out is to activist our way out.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Both project 19 and today’s CNN are prime examples of the rancid crap that passes as education in festering sh*tholes like Harvard, Berkeley, and countless other communist bastions


4 posted on 08/30/2025 9:05:23 AM PDT by pissant ((Deport 'em all))
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Slavery was the rich peoples way of paying low wages. The common man, had no need or want for the labor of others. He had a family for a reason, the kids grew up as the cheap labor.

If I was to look back, my family were slaves. If we didn’t work, we didn’t eat, have shelter, or 350 HP. I just can’t imagine, and I can hardly believe the poor people who worked for a living were using slaves.


5 posted on 08/30/2025 9:15:42 AM PDT by Glad2bnuts
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Obligations. It’s a harsh fact of life.

You get wrapped up into various things and then can’t get unwrapped.

One aspect for Carter is that Virginia law specifically forbid any sort of manumission at all until a certain time so it wouldn’t have mattered at all when he wanted to, the legal machinery had to creep up first.

But despite all of this the political use of such information - I mean, just look at that dirty stinking headline. CNN’s neener neener see how bad your Founding Fathers are? headline is just ridiculous.

Especially when the opposite is actually the truth. Carter, like many of the other people in his generation, were tied to slavery while loyalists but as they became patriots THAT was in part what gave them ideas regarding this slavery nastiness needed to come to an end.

If Carter were by himself that would be one thing but its fairly widespread.


6 posted on 08/30/2025 9:21:31 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (We cannot vote our way out of these problems. The only way out is to activist our way out.)
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To: Glad2bnuts

Two of my family lines (north of the Mason-Dixon) owned slaves in the late 18th Century.

Three of my great-grandfathers fought for the Union during the Civil War.

I don’t owe no stinkin’ “reparations”!


7 posted on 08/30/2025 9:23:39 AM PDT by lightman (Beat the Philly fraud machine the Amish did onest, ja? Nein, zweimal they did already!)
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To: ProgressingAmerica
Freed slaves often found new white people and asked to be their slaves or employees. It was much easier than trying to get a typical job. Slaves got food, clothing and housing, the 3 necessities of life. Some black males became cowboys, moving cattle from Texas to Montana and back. Females gravitated to housework. Treatment of freed slaves varied widely.
8 posted on 08/30/2025 9:26:37 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Annnd....TRUMP IS RIGHT AGAIN.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

“...slavery was an institution, a key engine of the new country’s economy.”


Slavery certainly was an institution, but a ‘key engine of the country’s economy’? I don’t think so.

Remember that 1791 was before cotton was a cash crop. Slavery looked to be dying a natural death due to the economics of slavery. If slaves and their upkeep cost more than they produced, slavery will eventually go away. Many in America were aware of this, both in the north and the south. The question was how slavery’s death would be managed.

The Founder’s view of slavery is shown in it ban in the Northwest Territory and the provision for the banning of the slave trade in the Constitution, which Congress enacted the same day that the Constitution allowed.

The invention of the cotton gin unfortunately made slavery profitable again.


9 posted on 08/30/2025 9:26:46 AM PDT by hanamizu ( )
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To: DIRTYSECRET

By Virginia law you couldn’t free your slaves if you had a mortgage, as they were considered part of the estate. An exception was you were allowed to free them in your will, which Washington and Jefferson did.


10 posted on 08/30/2025 9:29:49 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica
As Levy sees it, American history feebly attempts to level the founding fathers’ fondness for freedom with their ownership of humans by uncritically parroting their assertions that there was no pragmatic way to emancipate hundreds of thousands of slaves.

Its not "feeble" at all.

Jefferson was 100% correct. The nation held "a wolf by the ear."

History proves it - it took a brutal civil war to free the slaves and restructure the entire economy and society of the South.

11 posted on 08/30/2025 9:35:15 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: ProgressingAmerica

We’ve been paying the price of elites greedy need for cheap labor ever since. How long will we have to pay for the current elite’s need for cheap labor?


12 posted on 08/30/2025 9:36:34 AM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative)
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https://www.google.com/books/edition/American_Slavery/FaffAAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA71&printsec=frontcover
Virginia planter Robert Carter III warned his people that a British victory would result in their being sold into a far more oppressive slavery in the West Indies.

13 posted on 08/30/2025 9:47:21 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (We cannot vote our way out of these problems. The only way out is to activist our way out.)
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To: Glad2bnuts

The poor people were available in the bars to do the dangerous work. Pay them 25 cents. If they get injured the plantation owner is out 25 cents. The slaves worked harder but owners knew more than to subject their ‘property’ to dangers where they couldn’t work.


14 posted on 08/30/2025 9:50:10 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: ProgressingAmerica
https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_First_Emancipator/qmHZ_MKXN5EC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA106&printsec=frontcover
By the spring months of 1780, in other words, it became clear that the Revolution without was being trumped by the revolution within. Carter felt deep antipathy for British sympathizers: he fired one employee, the loyalist Thomas Dudley, telling him that "you may never expect either Countenance or protection from me ... for your offences against God and your country."

15 posted on 08/30/2025 9:51:59 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (We cannot vote our way out of these problems. The only way out is to activist our way out.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Well put. RCIII was inspired by the Declaration and a Quaker friend from Baltimore. He wasn’t alone, btw, as manumission became common after the Revolution in the Chesapeake region and Delaware. Jefferson directly freed two of the Hemings men during his lifetime, and allowed a few others to leave Monticello without de jure manumission but effectively so.

Like Mason, Jefferson termed the institution as tyrannical with corrupting effects upon slave owners.


16 posted on 08/30/2025 10:00:11 AM PDT by nicollo (Trump beat the cheat! )
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To: ProgressingAmerica
walked into a Northumberland County courthouse and delivered an airtight legal document announcing his intention to free, or manumit, more than 500 slaves

freeing the slaves does not excuse the fact that Carter III and his family were slave owners. Freeing them does not mean that he was not guilty of owning those slaves to begin with.

A sinner that finds Christ later in life, does not mean that he was never a sinner.
17 posted on 08/30/2025 10:19:06 AM PDT by adorno ( )
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To: ProgressingAmerica

CNN- No thanks. Why support the king of fake news and enemy of freedom loving people?


18 posted on 08/30/2025 10:21:43 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Slavery is all over... Right?

By the start of the American revolution in 1776 the abolition of slavery was a well established movement... During the American revolution the British were offering slaves freedom to fight for them... Then 10 years after the end of the American revolution, the French revolution in 1794 abolished slavery altogether... Napoleon then re-instated slavery in France and the French colonies in in 1802. Just a few years after that, the Slave Trade Act of 1807 was passed by the British making the buying and selling of enslaved people illegal in the British Empire... In 1833/34 the British abolished slavery for good and offered compensation to slave owners for their loses and in 1848 the French once again abolished slavery.

And sadly enough... Slavery continues to this day with well over 28 million people thought to be enslaved in some form or another in the world today. As long as there are people with large amounts of money and no scruples... Slavery will endure.


19 posted on 08/30/2025 10:25:10 AM PDT by jerod (Nazis were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Carter underwent a religious awakening, first as a Baptist, then as a Swedenborgian. That must have been a major influence on his actions. The increasing religiosity in the country fueled its increasing division with some believers coming to feel that slavery was morally wrong while others saw it as biblically justified and even ordained.

Robert E. Lee and Jimmy Carter were descended from other branches of the Carter family. I don’t know how many plantations Carter had, but his mansion at Nomini Hall looks rather modest by the standards of Europe at the time or America since then.


20 posted on 08/30/2025 10:48:16 AM PDT by x
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