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The Queen was a Remainer: her secret views on Brexit revealed
The Times (UK) ^ | August 29 2025 | Valentine Low

Posted on 08/30/2025 3:39:31 AM PDT by Salman

Queen Elizabeth II had opinions on all sorts of subjects; it was just that she chose not to share them. Or, more accurately, she did sometimes share them, but those who heard were usually too discreet to repeat them. As George Osborne says, “I was constantly astonished by how candid she was and that none of this ever came out. She’d be very forthright in telling you what she thought of individuals, including members of her own family, and what she thought about things going on in the country.”

Another politician tells how the Queen once mentioned over drinks that she was due to see Pakistan’s General Musharraf, who would later be found guilty of violating the country’s constitution and sentenced to death in absentia. “Isn’t he just a crook?” she said. “Isn’t he just completely corrupt?” The group she was talking to were lost for words at this, so one of them turned the conversation to horse racing and asked whether she watched the Channel 4 preview programme The Morning Line. She said,“I really like the Channel 4 coverage in the afternoon, and I always like to watch it when my horses are running, but The Morning Line? I can’t watch it. I can’t stand that man John McCririck.”

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: brexit; europe; neverheldajob; queenelizabeth; remainer; shesdeadnow; unitedkingdom; valentinelow; worstukmonarchever
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To: rbg81

Their duties as a monarch now are to look important and try not be embarrassing. Oh and waste money. Royalty are an expensive hobby England should ditch.


21 posted on 08/30/2025 6:53:41 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: CodeToad

Beheaded!


22 posted on 08/30/2025 6:54:53 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: discostu

Tourists are money.


23 posted on 08/30/2025 6:55:24 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: discostu

A king can’t even do that anymore.


24 posted on 08/30/2025 6:59:46 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: dfwgator

Tourists aren’t nearly as much money as the Royals cost. Especially when you reduce it down to tourists that give a crap about the Royals.


25 posted on 08/30/2025 7:04:09 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: napscoordinator
“I could see Obama surrounded by this big crowd. Am I supposed to go and tell him to go to bed?

How about, "Mr. President, I am not saying you have to go to bed, but you cannot stay here."
26 posted on 08/30/2025 7:06:31 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye." (John 2:5))
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To: discostu
Tourists aren’t nearly as much money as the Royals cost.

The money spent not just on the essential security of the presidency, but on the ceremonial overkill (54 limo-caravans, extra planes, scores of staff) is much greater than the expenditures on the Royal Family. A lot of their opulence is in money spend on buildings and land long ago.

The annual maintenance cost of the Royal Family is typically reported at £86.3 million via the Sovereign Grant for 2024-2025, but estimates including all security, event, and hidden expenses put the real annual taxpayer cost close to £510 million ($680 million).

Royal Family Costs (2024-2025)
Official Sovereign Grant: £86.3 million


Alternative (all-in estimate): ~£510 million (includes security, event costs, and "hidden" expenses)

That amount of money is a single MLB baseball player's contract and is a rounding error for some of the USAID programs recently cut.

The soft power of the Monarchy, is culturally conservative (despite its present flaws) and it is effective as a unifying theme for the entire Commonwealth of over 50 nations.
27 posted on 08/30/2025 7:18:09 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye." (John 2:5))
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To: Dr. Sivana

They throw that abject lie out periodically. Don’t believe it for a second. The thing they constantly ignore is how much it costs to maintain all those palaces that the royals “own”. And yachts and cars and funerals and weddings. The Royal Family costs hundreds of millions of Pounds on a cheap year. Then when there’s a coronation they’re willing to admit cost 90 million Pounds forget it.

And there is no soft power. And the Commonwealth is completely pointless. And costs money because the Royals do their periodic “royal tours” of the Commonwealth.

The Royal Family is hellishly expensive, and is nothing but burnt money.


28 posted on 08/30/2025 7:32:56 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Prince William is an Elitist so he's not going to be any different from his father except that he is smarter. But he's definitely woke.

At this rate, Prince William is likely going to be the last reigning Monarch of the United Kingdom.

I doubt that the Muslims in the country would want to keep the institution

29 posted on 08/30/2025 7:35:21 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: discostu
The Royal Family is hellishly expensive, and is nothing but burnt money.

In the United Kingdom, theoretically the Royal Family should be able to advocate for their country.

Just imagine if Queen Elizabeth was still alive and she wanted the politicians to close the borders? I think they'll listen to her and it would force the government to collapse.

30 posted on 08/30/2025 7:37:37 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: discostu

Someone should tell that to Johnny Rotten.


31 posted on 08/30/2025 7:41:12 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

In America ANYBODY can advocate for their country. And not cost the tax payers millions.

If Queen Elizabeth were alive today nothing would change. Mass immigration into the UK started while she WAS alive.

The Royals are useless. They’ll never go against the Government strongly because they know they’re on a teetering edge and the Republican movement is always growing and eventually the Government will get sick of their crap kick them out their palaces and tell them to get real jobs.


32 posted on 08/30/2025 7:41:30 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: discostu
In America ANYBODY can advocate for their country. And not cost the tax payers millions.

Yes. Because we're America. We have the Constitution and all that jazz.

The UK is not America.

If Queen Elizabeth were alive today nothing would change. Mass immigration into the UK started while she WAS alive.

You're 💯 correct. So Queen Elizabeth did a bad job. I like her personally. But her legacy is not going to be good.

The Royals are useless.

Right now? Yes. I cannot disagree with you on that.

It is probably the time to dismantle the Royal Family.

That said, the Royal Family served them well for centuries. It is a British institution. Obviously, that is no longer working.

33 posted on 08/30/2025 7:46:14 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: discostu

YOu are right. BUt not at the cost of traditional Brit8ish street food. EVerything is now curried.

Fish and Chips, bridies.....

No it is not as you say. This has happened over the last decade due to illegal immigration.


34 posted on 08/30/2025 7:46:45 AM PDT by Candor7 (Ask not for whom the Trump Trolls,He trolls for thee!<img src="" width=500</img><a href="">tag</a>) )
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To: Candor7

If anything is changed it’s that Britain has moved away from bland food. Something we did too. Nothing to do with immigration. They’ve just realized curried is better. Because it is.


35 posted on 08/30/2025 7:50:23 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: MinorityRepublican

It’s hundreds of years past time to dismantle them. Once the rebellion succeeded enough to make them figure heads they shouldn’t have done that. It should have ended. The Royal Family has NEVER served, only been served. For far far too long.


36 posted on 08/30/2025 7:51:55 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: discostu
Probably would have made sense to dismantle the institution after the end of the British Empire after WWII.

The UK should split up into England, Scotland, Wales and N. Ireland.

And of course, no EU.

37 posted on 08/30/2025 7:56:04 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: discostu

It wasn’t all bad. King George VI was viewed as a national symbol during WWII and obviously we know all about the British determination to fight the Nazis.


38 posted on 08/30/2025 7:59:21 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

All royalty is always bad. The concept of royalty is bad. Figureheads should only be on polls. If King George was that awesome he could have been just as awesome as a citizen, maybe a parliamentarian. But no one is awesome as the viral recipient of power. The very concept is evil.


39 posted on 08/30/2025 8:01:53 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: clee1
I find it fascinating that the American public has such high regard for the British monarchy. Didn’t we once fight a war to rid ourselves of such trash??

It's in our blood despite us disliking it.

I, and probably most of the people reading this descend from the Plantagenets.

I've found no evidence of a connection with the Tudors (yet).

40 posted on 08/30/2025 8:05:29 AM PDT by Mogger ( 7th generation Vermonter, refugee in New Hampshire hoping NH remains sane.)
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