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Parents of girls killed in Texas camp flooding say ‘commonsense’ measures were absent as lawmakers consider safety bill
CNN ^ | August 20, 2025 | Nicquel Terry Ellis

Posted on 08/21/2025 5:54:02 AM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege

“One of the biggest contributors to what we found out– and it could have been any camp, I promise you it could have been any camp– was complacency and human nature, and out of sight, out of mind,” said Republican Texas state Sen. Charles Perry, the committee’s chair.

Perry said Senate Bill 1 is the framework to prevent tragedies like Camp Mystic, but the camps will need to follow the provisions in the law.

“We did not send Linnie to a war zone; we sent her to camp,” said McGown, who remembered his daughter for her gentle, playful manner. “No parent should ever go through what we are living through now.”

It was the first time many of the parents spoke publicly about the death of their children and the lack of sufficient safety measures to prevent their deaths. At the hearing, the parents testified on Senate Bill 1, which aims to improve safety for youth camps across the state.

The camp’s owner and executive director Dick Eastland, who died in the flood while trying to rescue young campers, warned for decades about the hidden dangers of the Guadalupe River, CNN previously reported.

He successfully championed a new flood warning system after 10 children at a nearby camp died in a 1987 flood. That warning system, however, became antiquated and broken over the years.

At the hearing Wednesday, some lawmakers also placed blame on the camp for not doing enough to prepare for potential flooding.

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TOPICS: Extended News; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: campmystic; flood; kerr; kerrcountytx; texas; tx
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“One of the biggest contributors…was complacency and human nature, and out of sight, out of mind…”
1 posted on 08/21/2025 5:54:02 AM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: DallasBiff

Ping


2 posted on 08/21/2025 5:55:44 AM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
If the camps knew flooding was an issue simply moving the facilities to higher ground on the property would have been a practical response.

Just an observation.

3 posted on 08/21/2025 6:00:34 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

When disasters like this happen, it’s almost always several things that come together and when you look at it in hindsight you go, “that’s obvious.”

What I find disturbing is that the owner who died warned people and pushed for safety measures/systems. This had happened before in 1987.

I would steer a huge wide path around laying any blame on that person. He paid with his life trying to save kids for a problem he warned people about.

At least that’s how I read this.


4 posted on 08/21/2025 6:01:28 AM PDT by Red6
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
So the camp is off the hook to you?

Shouldn't the parents have inquired about safety measures the camp had, especially with the camp being on a flood plain.

Why does the government have to regulate?

Again, this was a tragedy and RIP to the victims, but sometimes one cannot control nature.

It's a fact of life.

5 posted on 08/21/2025 6:03:05 AM PDT by DallasBiff (Apology not accepted.la is not the sharpest knife in the drawer)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Or maybe don’t build your camp in a flood zone.


6 posted on 08/21/2025 6:05:15 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: DallasBiff

Someone is eerily obsessed ... when they should be focused on their own state’s horrific death rates, caused by the REPEATED absence of commonsense measures.


7 posted on 08/21/2025 6:07:44 AM PDT by Jane Long (Jesus is Lord!)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

If you are sleeping in a flood zone and it is raining hard and the rain is expected to continue you need to go to Red Alert status.


8 posted on 08/21/2025 6:09:48 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
From Google's AI:
Camp Mystic, established in 1926, has experienced numerous floods on the Guadalupe River. While a precise count of all flood events is not readily available, the camp has faced significant disruptions and damage from floods throughout its history, including a major flood in 1932. Other notable flood years include 1936, 1952, 1972, 1973, 1978, 1987, 1991, and 1997, according to the Guadalupe-Blanco River Authority. The camp's location in a "picturesque bend" of the river has made it particularly vulnerable to flooding.

9 posted on 08/21/2025 6:13:05 AM PDT by Carl Vehse (Make Austin Texas Again! )
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To: circlecity

Exactly.


10 posted on 08/21/2025 6:14:25 AM PDT by No name given ( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as )
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To: philman_36

That’s right.


11 posted on 08/21/2025 6:16:15 AM PDT by No name given ( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as )
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To: Jane Long; CondoleezzaProtege
Someone is eerily obsessed ... when they should be focused on their own state’s horrific death rates, caused by the REPEATED absence of commonsense measures.

Yep. Especially when the fire hydrants in Pacific Palisades did not work.

12 posted on 08/21/2025 6:17:06 AM PDT by DallasBiff (Apology not accepted.la is not the sharpest knife in the drawer)
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To: DallasBiff

And, the stand down orders given to the firefighters ... to NOT use the FULL reservoir, that was readily available. Criminal.

Have there even been any hearings on that/those actions?


13 posted on 08/21/2025 6:20:58 AM PDT by Jane Long (Jesus is Lord!)
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To: DallasBiff

One of my only reasons for logging onto FR is to have an outlet to properly lament Governor Newsom’s and the progressive Left’s reign of terror since before Covid, through Covid, and the negligent fire responses and prevention leading UP to the Palisades and Eaton fires, and then the culmination of all that negligence in those fires themselves

Not to mention the general state of disarray and dereliction of our once beautiful major cities.


14 posted on 08/21/2025 6:21:53 AM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: philman_36

Just a clear path/trail to higher grounds would likely have done the trick. Dark...Are you telling me that no one has a flash light...or a flare gun...or something to say they’re in trouble. Radios??


15 posted on 08/21/2025 6:22:06 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: DallasBiff

SMH ...

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/video/on-air/palisades-fires-after-action-report-to-be-held-for-now/3766690/


16 posted on 08/21/2025 6:34:53 AM PDT by Jane Long (Jesus is Lord!)
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To: Jane Long; CondoleezzaProtege
And, the stand down orders given to the firefighters ... to NOT use the FULL reservoir, that was readily available. Criminal.

The flood in Texas literally happened in minutes. The fires in Palisades(California) could have been put out in minutes if there had been access to water which was denied.

Nature happens and leftists think they can control it.

17 posted on 08/21/2025 6:38:36 AM PDT by DallasBiff (Apology not accepted.la is not the sharpest knife in the drawer)
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To: philman_36

bttt


18 posted on 08/21/2025 6:51:54 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: DallasBiff

If anything, my radar for this breed of negligence precisely comes from unpacking it with regard to California. So it’s sad when a “red” state fails to set an example to follow (the way say, Florida does.)

But ultimately: you are taking your denial out on me, when really your denial is directed towards the Camp Mystic families and Republican officials who themselves have said human nature played a major role.

And again, both camp owner Dick Eastland AND the local government DID advocate for and have better alert measures in place through the decades into the 80s. Innovative even for the time, and then they dropped the ball in recent years…

It’s not just with natural disasters — but responses to fully manmade ones that institutional shortcomings reveal themselves, Uvalde and the school shooting there is another one. And Uvalde just happens to be in Texas.


19 posted on 08/21/2025 6:53:37 AM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: Sacajaweau

When we were kids we were raised to be independent.
I camped in a lot of “Dangerous” places, but always had a plan to get out. Certainly paid attention to the radio that reported rain upstream or fires.
Reliance upon the government to save your butt is stupid.
You are the first responder. Government services we pay for are definitely very useful.
But you and only you are there and can be the first hand best defense.


20 posted on 08/21/2025 6:54:25 AM PDT by rellic (No such thing as a moderate Moslem or Democrat )
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