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Trump backs renewed push to rig the U.S. census by only counting citizens
MSNBC ^ | July 4, 2025 | Ja'han Jones

Posted on 07/12/2025 6:02:56 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

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To: TheBattman

I remember during this conversation, Governor DeSantis mentioned they should have at least one more seat, and then I remembered hearing somewhere (maybe here?) that there are really two states that make up lots of illegals due to the agriculture.

California and Florida were those two. Someone did the stats and math on it.

Florida might also benefit from the sanctuary state/city model in ways where it’s not a sanctuary, but it is a magnet.

But we definitely need to have the sanctuary state/city model obliterated.

It’s a Swamp power grab just like you said.


121 posted on 07/13/2025 7:22:36 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: Eleutheria5

Are they citizens?


122 posted on 07/13/2025 7:25:10 AM PDT by TheBattman (Democrats-Progressives-Marxists-Socialists-Satanists: redundant labels.)
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To: BipolarBob
Do they ever read their headlines?

I don't think they know how to read!! 😀

123 posted on 07/13/2025 7:32:52 AM PDT by DeplorableTrumpSupporter (FKA ConservaTeen)
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To: SamuraiScot
What are they supposed to count? The squirrels, too?

I believe MSDNC wants to count chipmunks, too.

And Sasquatchs too. Sasquatchs should vote, too. 😀

124 posted on 07/13/2025 7:36:41 AM PDT by DeplorableTrumpSupporter (FKA ConservaTeen)
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To: TheBattman

No, but if they stay in the country long enough and behave well, they can become citizens, and they do pay taxes. So they might count on the census, for purposes of congressional seats. But does Trump want them counted? I can understand counting them in a separate category, but they ought to be noted imho. It would incentivize legal immigration, and continuing on the path toward citizenship. On the other hand, no, they are not presently citizens.


125 posted on 07/13/2025 7:38:43 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David. Child in need ofand thhere we CGM system. https://gofund.me/6452dbf1. )
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To: CaptainK

“I thought I’d be clicking on a Babylon Bee satire.”
Dittos


126 posted on 07/13/2025 8:15:26 AM PDT by PsyCon
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To: DeplorableTrumpSupporter
And Sasquatchs too. Sasquatchs should vote, too.

I'm certain that between podcasts with her brother and Jack Links commercials she makes time to vote for appearances sake.

127 posted on 07/13/2025 8:39:52 AM PDT by MikelTackNailer ("The sheriff is near!")
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To: MinorityRepublican

That headline should OFFEND all LEGAL citizens who care about having fair elections that can’t be rigged. They are wailing about NOT COUNTING illegal invaders and others who don’t belong in the count. You see they think they are sly and all of you are STUPID. Shun that garbage so called: news. They lie to you even with the headline.
WE DO NOT HAVE A FREE PRESS. Think for yourself and not let this leftwing slime do your thinking for you.


128 posted on 07/13/2025 8:56:57 AM PDT by alaskamomma
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; BraveMan; cardinal4; ...
Looks like Babylon Bee. Isn't.

129 posted on 07/13/2025 10:15:14 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (The moron troll Ted Holden believes that humans originated on Ganymede.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

By NOT counting illegals? I thought this was the BEE. Democrats are such vile people... cheaters...liars, grifters. Friggin lowlifes.


130 posted on 07/13/2025 1:27:59 PM PDT by GOPJ (Democrats judge themselves by their 'intentions' NOT by their results. It's one reason they fail.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

The Constitution still directs the counting of “persons,” not “citizens.”

The only way Trump or anyone else changes that, or changed birthright citizenship, is by amending the Constitution.


131 posted on 07/13/2025 2:25:12 PM PDT by Bob Wills is still the king
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To: Eleutheria5

So we has a Congress problem

That census data CLEARLY shows the number of noncitizens

Do these congresscritters think the nons VOTE for them?


132 posted on 07/14/2025 6:36:57 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Dr. Franklin
CJ Roberts wanted people kept ignorant of the disparity, which is why he ruled Trump couldn't count citizens in the last census.

Oh?

133 posted on 07/14/2025 6:41:49 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Dr. Franklin

The link I posted had the data of non vs citizens.


134 posted on 07/14/2025 6:42:48 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mastador1

No, it isn’t the counting that’s the problem. It’s the voting by the nons that’s the problem.


135 posted on 07/14/2025 6:44:38 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

That’s what they’re hoping to arrange.


136 posted on 07/14/2025 6:46:12 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David. Child in need ofand thhere we CGM system. https://gofund.me/6452dbf1. )
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To: Bob Wills is still the king

OK, the constitution says to count persons but after that it does NOT say that we can’t separate the persons into different categories


137 posted on 07/14/2025 6:51:06 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Eleutheria5

True, but how does counting them somehow morph into allowing them to vote?


138 posted on 07/14/2025 6:52:48 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

First step, to weigh the impact they’d have. Then give them drivers’ licenses, and then make a driver’s license sufficient ID to vote.


139 posted on 07/14/2025 6:55:34 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David. Child in need ofand thhere we CGM system. https://gofund.me/6452dbf1. )
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To: Eleutheria5

Still nothing to do with census.

That’s the law on ID requirements.


140 posted on 07/14/2025 2:06:46 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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