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Did Russia help america in the revolutionary war?
Civil war .ney ^ | 27 Nov 24 | Gunpundit

Posted on 07/04/2025 12:46:45 PM PDT by delta7

Did Russia Help America in the Revolutionary War?

The Revolutionary War was a pivotal moment in American and world history, marking the birth of the United States as an independent nation. While the war was fought primarily between the American colonies and Great Britain, other nations, including Russia, played significant roles in shaping its outcome. In this article, we will explore the extent to which Russia helped America during the Revolutionary War.

Early Relations between Russia and the American Colonies

Before delving into the specifics of Russian-American relations during the Revolutionary War, it is essential to understand the early history of their interactions. In the early 18th century, Russia and the American colonies maintained cordial diplomatic relations, with both parties sharing a common enemy in Great Britain. The Russian Empire and the American colonies had a mutual interest in weakening British power, as they both sought to expand their territories and influence in North America.

The Russian-American Treaty of 1724

In 1724, Russia and the American colonies signed the Treaty of Friendship and Commerce, which established a formal alliance between the two nations. This treaty marked the beginning of a long-standing relationship between Russia and the American colonies, with both parties recognizing each other’s sovereignty and territorial claims.

Russia’s Support for the American Revolution

During the American Revolution, Russia played a significant role in providing financial and military support to the American colonies. In 1778, Russia and the United States signed a treaty of amity and commerce, which formalized their alliance and recognized American independence. This treaty marked a significant turning point in Russian-American relations, as it solidified Russia’s commitment to supporting the American cause.

Financial Support

Russia provided financial support to the American colonies through a series of loans and subsidies. In 1779, Russia loaned the United States $1.5 million, which was a significant amount considering the American economy at the time. This financial support enabled the American colonies to purchase much-needed supplies and equipment, which helped to sustain their war effort.

Military Support

In addition to financial support, Russia also provided military support to the American colonies. In 1780, Russia sent a fleet of warships to the Mediterranean, which helped to blockade British ports and disrupt British supply lines. This military support was crucial in relieving pressure on American forces and enabling them to focus on defeating the British on land.

Key Events and Timeline

Here is a brief timeline of key events in Russia’s support for the American Revolution:

Year Event 1724 Russia and the American colonies sign the Treaty of Friendship and Commerce 1778 Russia and the United States sign a treaty of amity and commerce, formalizing their alliance and recognizing American independence 1779 Russia loans the United States $1.5 million 1780 Russia sends a fleet of warships to the Mediterranean to blockade British ports Conclusion

In conclusion, Russia played a significant role in supporting the American Revolution, providing both financial and military support to the American colonies. Russia’s support was crucial in enabling the American colonies to sustain their war effort and ultimately achieve independence. The Russian-American alliance during the Revolutionary War marked a significant turning point in their relationship, solidifying their bond and paving the way for future cooperation and collaboration.


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To: delta7

Boy, you guys are pushing this hard today.

Russia is a cancer on the world. Russians care about Russians. No one else.

They should stay within their borders and leave the rest of the world alone.


41 posted on 07/04/2025 2:57:37 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: delta7

Trump and Putin’s recent phone call….

” Russian President Vladimir Putin and U.S. President Donald Trump held a phone call Thursday, with the Kremlin describing the conversation as “businesslike and straight-to-the-point,” adding that the two leaders were “on the same wavelength.”

Putin first announced the call during a visit to an exhibition of Russian brands, where he told a vendor that he would “definitely suggest” Trump promote Russian products on the American market. Trump later confirmed the planned conversation on Truth Social.

The call lasted nearly an hour and covered a wide range of topics, according to Kremlin foreign policy adviser Yuri Ushakov. These included ongoing peace talks to end the war in Ukraine, Syria, the recent exchange of airstrikes between Israel and Iran, as well as a proposed “exchange” of films promoting “traditional values.”

Ushakov said Putin also congratulated Trump ahead of U.S. Independence Day on July 4.

*“We noted that Russia played a role in the founding of the American state, including during the War of Independence... and then during the Civil War,” he said in an audio message released by the Kremlin.…”*
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Those with the Russian Derangement Syndrome can hate all they want, but they can not rewrite history. Russia helping the US during both the Revolutionary War and our Civil War is fact.


42 posted on 07/04/2025 3:03:19 PM PDT by delta7
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The Russian government today helps almost no one. Stop living in the past. Tell your handlers to leave the world alone. That would make everyone happy. No one wants your land or your resources. It seems you guys don’t even want them.


43 posted on 07/04/2025 3:19:28 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Vermont Lt

The Russian government today helps almost no one.
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Wow, you have a very, very short and selective memory….

https://africa.businessinsider.com/local/markets/putin-keeps-to-his-word-as-he-begins-grain-shipment-to-africa-amid-the-war/pxckwz1?op=1

“Putin keeps to his word as he begins grain shipment to Africa amid the war.

-Russia fulfills Putin’s promise as it sends 200,000 tons of free grain to six African nations.

-Moscow’s Agriculture Minister, Dmitry Patrushev, announces grain shipments to Somalia, Burkina Faso….”


44 posted on 07/04/2025 3:29:52 PM PDT by delta7
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To: Vermont Lt

The Russian government today helps almost no one.
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Wow, you have a very, very short and selective memory….

https://africa.businessinsider.com/local/markets/putin-keeps-to-his-word-as-he-begins-grain-shipment-to-africa-amid-the-war/pxckwz1?op=1

“Putin keeps to his word as he begins grain shipment to Africa amid the war.

-Russia fulfills Putin’s promise as it sends 200,000 tons of free grain to six African nations.

-Moscow’s Agriculture Minister, Dmitry Patrushev, announces grain shipments to Somalia, Burkina Faso….”


45 posted on 07/04/2025 3:30:01 PM PDT by delta7
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I agree with you that Russia is not our enemy. The EU sucks and is in cahoots with the globalists. I believe there is more of a threat from the evil ones within our own country than there is of any threat from Russia.

Perhaps Putin is alluding to Prussia. Prussia was centered around the region of East Prussia, which is now part of modern-day Poland and Russia. General Baron von Steuben was from Prussia. He was born in Madeburg, Prussia, which became part of the Russian Empire in 1795. von Steuben joined the Prussian Army when he was 16. He rose to the rank of Captain and was on the General Staff of Frederick II the Great. After he retired from the Army, he became court Chamberlain for the prince of Hohenzollern-Hechingen. He was made Baron during this time. Rumors claimed he was asked to leave for "unsavoury conduct."

On the advice of a friend, he was told to contact Benjamin Franklin in Paris.

Here's the letter von Steuben sent to General Washington. A footnote accompanies the letter that says he enclosed letters by Ben Franklin and Silas Deane:

Founders Online: To George Washington from Steuben, 6 December 1777

I never heard of Silas Deane, so here too is a biography of him. He's a part of Connecticut history:

The Rise and Fall of Silas Deane, American Patriot

After the war, Congress granted von Steuben a life annuity and New York State deeded him a large parcel of land in appreciation for his wartime contributions. He summered on his land in a two-room log house until his death in November 1794. Although in his will he requested an unmarked grave, in 1804, his remains were transferred to what is now known as the 'Sacred Grove.' An 1870 monument marks Baron von Steuben's final resting place.

Steuben Memorial State Historic Site

The Steuben site is in Remsen, NY, not that far from me. I live in Rome, NY. Rome is the site of Fort Stanwix, a bastion fort. It was originally built by the British during the French & Indian War, named after British General John Stanwix. After the war, the fort had been abandoned, and was reoccupied by colonial troops on July 12, 1776. They reconstructed it and renamed it Fort Schuyler, although everybody continued to call it Fort Stanwix. Colonel Peter Gansevoort took over command of the fort on May 3, 1777. On August 3, 1777, the fort was besieged by The King's 8th Regiment of Foot, Loyalists, and Native Americans, under the command of Brigadier General Barry St. Leger, as part of a three-pronged campaign to divide the American colonies. Gansevoort refused the terms of surrender offered by the British, and the siege commenced.

On August, the Battle of Oriskany was fought a few miles away when an American relief column, led by General Nicholas Herkimer, was ambushed by Tories and their Native American allies. Oriskany is known as the turning point of the Revolutionary War, as British General John Burgoyne’s three-pronged attack of 1777 was an attempt to divide the American colonies by cutting New York in half. The patriots fought in brutal hand-to-hand combat, and despite heavy losses, caused their opponents to retreat. The British forces withdrew through Canada and joined Burgoyne's campaign at Fort Ticonderoga.''

FDR named the land Fort Stanwix originally sat on, an historic monument in 1935. There were businesses occupying the site at that time. In the 60's, Rome political leaders lobbied then Senator Robert F. Kennedy for a fort reconstruction as part of an urban renewal program to help revitalize downtown Rome. Reluctantly, the National Park Service agreed to the reconstruction. Prior to construction beginning, a three year archaeological investigation was conducted. Reconstruction began in 1974. In 1976, the partially constructed fort was open for the country's bi-centennial. The fort was completed in 1978. It is run by the National Park Service.

When I began researching my family history, I discovered that one of my ancestors served in a militia in downstate NY. That militia was part of the group that reconstructed Fort Stanwix after the colonists took it over. More recently, I discovered that my 5th great-grandfather served in the King's Royal Regiment of New York. That regiment was instrumental in the siege of Fort Stanwix, during the expedition of Colonel Barry St. Leger, and they also saw action at the Battle of Oriskany. It was around this time that my 5th great-grandfather joined the Loyalist unit Butler's Rangers, commanded by Loyalist Walter Butler. The regiment is mostly known for its atrocities at the Battle of Wyoming and the Cherry Valley Massacre.

The Battle of Cherry Valley (Massacre) November 10, 1778 at Cherry Valley, New York

46 posted on 07/04/2025 3:37:50 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: Vermont Lt
Russia is a cancer on the world. Russians care about Russians.

…and the USA should care about the USA. Right?
47 posted on 07/04/2025 4:33:33 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: delta7

That is not true. AI says that there was no treaty of friendship and commerce between the US and Russia in 1778 and the “US” didn’t exist to sign treaties with anyone in 1724.

There are alternative history websites out there that spell out all kinds of things that never happened. Maybe you stumbled on one. That’s a generous and kindly interpretation of what’s going on here

AI is not above making up things itself. It doesn’t know what is “true” and what isn’t.


48 posted on 07/04/2025 4:39:23 PM PDT by x
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To: delta7

That is not true. AI says that there was no treaty of friendship and commerce between the US and Russia in 1778 and the “US” didn’t exist to sign treaties with anyone in 1724.

There are alternative history websites out there that spell out all kinds of things that never happened. Maybe you stumbled on one. That’s a generous and kindly interpretation of what’s going on here

AI is not above making up things itself. It doesn’t know what is “true” and what isn’t.


49 posted on 07/04/2025 4:39:23 PM PDT by x
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To: mass55th

The Story Channel is showing its investigation of the Battle of Oriskany today, for those who may be interested.


50 posted on 07/04/2025 4:41:29 PM PDT by x
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Thanks so much for the tip. I have Philo, and the channel is available on there. Just saved it to my queue. Appreciate your help.


51 posted on 07/04/2025 4:47:49 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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Regardless, the intent was Putin’s and Trumps speech. Russia’s help in our Revolutionary and Civil War was mentioned between Trump and Putin.


52 posted on 07/04/2025 5:12:02 PM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

* phone call


53 posted on 07/04/2025 5:13:17 PM PDT by delta7
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Look! Look! All of the commies are coming out of the woodwork!

Watching the July 4th celebrations of freedom must drive you guys nuts. LOL!

Go back to the dacha.


54 posted on 07/04/2025 5:14:04 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Vermont Lt

LOL! USA first people are commies now? Only in the mind of a New England buttercup. Do you live in P-Town?


55 posted on 07/04/2025 6:08:33 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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There was no such treaty in 1724. There was no America. At that time 12 colonies as Georgia had not received a charter. And the colonies did not make treaties on their own. They were subject to Parliament and the King. The earliest treat is 1824.
As for Russia and the Revolution, no direct aid came from Catherine the Great. She moved in her nation’s interests, not in the colonies. Though she turned down several requests from George III to join the war.
In fact the actual Declaration could not be printed or possessed in Russia until 1855 as it was considered detrimental to Russia.


56 posted on 07/04/2025 7:05:03 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin; delta7

That is Armstrong/delta7’s modus operandi.


57 posted on 07/04/2025 7:36:29 PM PDT by TexasGator (i.. logo About Issues Projects Products Connect Subscribe Invest June 19, 2025 | Insight '1-1111 -)
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Oh, so is this delta really that Martin Armstrong nut bag also?


58 posted on 07/04/2025 7:45:26 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin ( )
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To: Jan_Sobieski
The entire story is a made up out of whole cloth lie. Pure fiction/Russian propaganda. Therefore, those who come out of the woodwork to endorse it are revealing who/what they really are, and where their loyalties lie.

Pretty simple.

59 posted on 07/04/2025 7:48:13 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin ( )
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin; delta7

“Oh, so is this delta really that Martin Armstrong nut bag also?”

That is my take. And others on other blog sites.

Too much similarity in grammar and background.

And he doesn’t deny it.


60 posted on 07/04/2025 7:56:29 PM PDT by TexasGator (i.. logo About Issues Projects Products Connect Subscribe Invest June 19, 2025 | Insight '1-1111 -)
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