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Police say a man opened fire outside a church before staff fatally shot him, averting mass shooting
AP, Rochesterfirst.com ^
| June 23, 2025
| PAUL SANCYA and HOLLY RAMER
Posted on 06/23/2025 4:54:56 AM PDT by marktwain
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A Church member and church staff members stopped the attack. I wonder if the FBI will lable them as "security guards".
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posted on
06/23/2025 4:54:56 AM PDT
by
marktwain
To: marktwain
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posted on
06/23/2025 4:55:55 AM PDT
by
AppyPappy
(If Hitler were alive today and criticized Trump, would he still be Hitler?)
To: marktwain
I’m not sure, but I think if this had happened in MA, we would see three people facing serious charges.
To: AppyPappy
Guy’s mother attended the church, and he had attended a few times in the past.
Maybe mom was tithing his inheritance.
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posted on
06/23/2025 4:57:54 AM PDT
by
Fido969
To: marktwain
Oh noes! Is the truck ok?
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posted on
06/23/2025 5:06:28 AM PDT
by
LouAvul
(1 John 2:22: Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist.)
To: marktwain
Thus is a great example of why I always carry at church.
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posted on
06/23/2025 5:09:29 AM PDT
by
V_TWIN
(America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
To: marktwain
Donโt mess with a little old church lady. They carry. ๐
To: marktwain
One was a security guard.
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posted on
06/23/2025 5:13:30 AM PDT
by
madison10
To: madison10
It appears one or two were part of church security. These are volunteers, not paid security guards.
There is a difference.
They probably had state concealed carry licenses in Michigan.
We will get more detail as it becomes available. Because they are referred to as “church staff”, I believe they are volunteers.
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posted on
06/23/2025 5:17:10 AM PDT
by
marktwain
To: ClearCase_guy
Iโm not sure, but I think if this had happened in MA, we would see three people facing serious charges. They could charge the pickup driver with abuse of a corpse.
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posted on
06/23/2025 5:23:01 AM PDT
by
Pontiac
(The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
To: Pontiac; ClearCase_guy
Oops
Got the timeline wrong.
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posted on
06/23/2025 5:24:41 AM PDT
by
Pontiac
(The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
To: AppyPappy
3rd stage stupidity it happens every time.
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posted on
06/23/2025 5:26:00 AM PDT
by
Vaduz
To: ClearCase_guy
A lot of people carry at our church, plus we have a security team...but I can’t disagree with your sentiment. At least under this admin, we are no longer considered terrorists ๐ I love that he got run over by a deacon first!
To: AppyPappy; marktwain
Police described the suspect as a 31-year-old white male with no known connection to the church. I would make a small wager that he has a connection to the Democrat Party.
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posted on
06/23/2025 5:30:04 AM PDT
by
Pontiac
(The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
To: small farm girl
Deacon tu4ned him in5o a speed bump
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posted on
06/23/2025 5:41:32 AM PDT
by
Bob434
(Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana)
To: marktwain
This is why i carry everywhere and all the time. Nobody is coming to save us , we must save ourselves.
To: marktwain
I would say at least 40% percent of our congregation pack and we have armed security. Best stay away from our small church here in Greeneville, TN, if you have ill intentioned motives.
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posted on
06/23/2025 6:06:19 AM PDT
by
animal172
(This ain't the country I grew up in.)
To: marktwain
Legacy media will totally ignore this. Two good guys, one with a truck and one with a gun, saved the day. Can’t be reporting that.
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posted on
06/23/2025 6:09:26 AM PDT
by
Lee'sGhost
("Just look at the flowers, Lizzie. Just look at the flowers.")
To: Lee'sGhost
I bet the perp is/was a DIM voter. Asto his just desserts...LOL!
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posted on
06/23/2025 6:22:32 AM PDT
by
hal ogen
(First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
To: marktwain
At our church we say if ever attacked there will be more outbound than inbound.
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posted on
06/23/2025 6:30:54 AM PDT
by
bray
(It's not racist to be racist against races the DNC hates.)
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