Posted on 05/29/2025 8:29:39 PM PDT by hiho hiho
SEATTLE — A legally armed civilian shot and killed a 16-year-old boy Wednesday night after the teen allegedly opened fire on two people in downtown Seattle, according to police.
The shooting happened just after 10 p.m. near First Avenue and Union Street. Police said the teen shot two people before he encountered a 57-year-old man licensed to carry a firearm, who then shot the teen.
“One individual produced a weapon, fired on the two individuals and then began to flee the scene,” said Seattle Police Chief Shon Barnes. “When he did, he encountered a private citizen that was licensed to carry and that private citizen fired his weapon, striking the suspect.”
The teen, along with both shooting victims, was taken to Harborview Medical Center, where the 16-year-old later died. One of the victims has since been released from the hospital, while the other remains in satisfactory condition, police said.
Barnes said the teen’s weapon was recovered at the scene. The 57-year-old man who opened fire is cooperating with the investigation and is not currently considered a suspect.
Detectives are still working to determine what led up to the shooting and whether the victims and the suspect knew each other.
“We need people to have cooler heads to prevail,” Barnes said. “People who are carrying weapons — just know that our officers are out here, we are doing proactive patrols.”
KING 5 law enforcement analyst John Urquhart says the case is likely being viewed through the lens of Washington’s self-defense laws.
“Washington is what they call a ‘no duty to retreat’ state,” Urquhart said. “Other states call it ‘stand your ground.’ The idea is exactly the same — when a person is confronted by a bad guy, he is not required to back away or run away.”
Urquhart added that the timing and proximity of the shooting will be key in determining whether the use of deadly force was legally justified.
“Did he intervene when the suspect was running away and a block away — or when the suspect was still on scene and clearly armed?” he said. “The fact that the citizen was not arrested, was not booked, is not being described as a suspect, leads me to believe Seattle police see this as a legal and justified use of force. But again, they don’t make the final decision — the prosecutor’s office does.”
The chief is moron obviously looking for a way to arrest the Good Samaritan
16 year old THUG is more like it.
Good shoot.
Licensed makes no difference.
Was the “bad gun’s” shooter licensed?
Not an issue you say?
Or...Outside of y’all’s narrative push? Or Makes the problem REALLY a people problem? Or all of the above??
Then why the fret over the lone ranger’s status?
We need people to have cooler heads to prevail,” Barnes said. “People who are carrying weapons — just know that our officers are out here, we are doing proactive patrols.”
What the hell does that mean? I am glad the bastard is dead. Good shooting.
It’s too bad that it had to happen.
The trash got taken out on First St. in Seattle.
No doubt.
LOL!!!
Cops think they're "SEAL Team 6" on a search and destroy mission in enemy held territory.
And this is why we must take jury duty seriously as a real obligation, and not just try to get out of it. As jurors, we are the last peaceful line of defense against oppressive government.
As a juror, I pledge that I will not find anyone guilty of any crime, nor will I find anyone liable for any damages, in connection with that person "taking out the trash".
“The first responder to any emergency situation involving you ... is YOU!”
I made this point at one of our CERT meetings. Our Fire Department liaison kept calling his people the “first responders”.
So I asked “Chief, since you have to wait for a call to respond doesn’t that make the caller the first responder?”
He vapor locked for a second. “Yea, I guess you’re right. I never thought about it that way.”
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I don’t recall hearing the term “first responder” before 9/11; I believe it was coined when people were deifying the NYC police and firemen. I throw no rocks at the cops and firemen; they displayed great courage and devotion.
But they were NOT “first responders” even then. The office workers in the Towers, and in the Pentagon, were the first responders.
A few years ago, my brother-in-law had a heart attack at home. My nephew and niece (his children) had just learned CPR at school, which they immediately started performing while my sister got on the phone with 911. The kids saved his ass. He’s doing OK, now. In remarks later, the fire chief (or some such official) referred to the kids as “first responders”. He was correct in doing so. Some people get it.
I keep my First-Aid/CPR/AED certification current.
Because you never know.
Excellent point, and I’m going to use that. Alot. One of the more significant and destructive changes in our society is that most people seem so damned feeble, and untrained —at all— in matters of first aid, fire suppression, and personal defense. As if all these essential functions of human life are someone else’s responsibility. All of my vehicles are equipped with a first aid kit, flares, a gallon of water, a fire extinguisher, and when I’m in them, a firearm of one kind or another. Have been the ‘first responder’ on a few horrible accidents and one small structure fire. Have also put down one badly hurt fawn. The former Scout’s creed “Be Prepared” has been erased from society.
Indeed you are your own first responder.
Clown Town
What’s there to investigate? Boy shoots two people and is put down by a citizen because the cops weren’t around.
Didn’t the armed Citizen “allegedly” shoot the worthless criminal loser?
This is how a civil society is supposed to respond. The good guy protects the people by removing the bad guy.
Have any of these people ever lived in an area in which you can leave the doors unlocked and the purse on the porch without fear of loss? It is a beautiful way to live.
The authorities get uncomfortable when ordinary peasants, - oops "citizens", use force to resist or put down violent predators.
Sounds like the Seattle authorities are looking hard to charge the good guy with a gun. As noted by others, having police minutes away when seconds matter turns police into report writers.
I don’t like the word “suspect” in the headline. A guy headed toward you with a smoking gun with two victims on the ground behind him is not a “suspect,” he’s an “active shooter.”
Also, I don’t like the way “suspect” has replaced “perpetrator.”
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