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Trump’s Trade Math Ignores a Major Export: American Services
Wall Street Journal ^ | April 10, 2025 | Konrad Putzier and Alana Pipe

Posted on 04/11/2025 5:05:19 AM PDT by karpov

President Trump is wielding tariffs to try to close the massive U.S. trade deficit in goods, which he sees as a sign of economic weakness.

It is only part of the trade story.

While the U.S. buys more goods from abroad than it sells, the opposite is true for services, which include everything from streaming subscriptions to financial advice. Trump left these service exports out of his tariff math, but they are being pulled into his trade wars.

On Wednesday, Trump ratcheted up the U.S. trade war with China, but put broader tariffs above 10% on most other countries on ice for 90 days. Sectoral tariffs such as the ones imposed on automobiles weren’t changed.

Still, the shock of Trump’s globe-spanning tariffs has sent countries scrambling and rocked markets as world leaders adapt to a suddenly much more adversarial trade relationship with the world’s biggest economy.

Countries can’t easily impose tariffs on services, but they can tax, fine or even ban U.S. companies. The European Union has floated going after big U.S. tech companies in response to Trump’s sweeping tariff threats. Trump also put U.S. service exports at risk by irking foreign consumers, many of whom might choose to avoid U.S. banks, asset managers and other firms. An economic slowdown that curbs demand as markets grapple with the president’s extreme trade makeover won’t help either.

For decades, the U.S. and the rest of the world had a deal: Other countries sent cars, phones, clothes and food to the U.S., and in return they got bonds, software and management consultants.

As the U.S. imported more goods from abroad and domestic factories closed, its goods trade deficit swelled to a record $1.21 trillion by 2024. At the same time, the U.S. services trade surplus grew to $295 billion last year

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: tariffs; trade
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1 posted on 04/11/2025 5:05:19 AM PDT by karpov
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To: karpov

The US didn’t survive against the Axis and the Warsaw Pact due to “services,” you Wall Street Journal traitors.


2 posted on 04/11/2025 5:07:59 AM PDT by HombreSecreto (The life of a repo man is always intense)
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To: karpov

Is there an award for hand wringing?


3 posted on 04/11/2025 5:09:14 AM PDT by Dutch Boy (The only thing worse than having something taken from you is to have it returned broken. )
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To: karpov

WSJ is the pimp for Wall Street, that doesn’t care about main Street whatsoever. It’s why they were created in the first place.


4 posted on 04/11/2025 5:11:34 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: karpov

Wow!
1. $1.2 trillion goods trade deficit
2. $0.3 trillion services trade surplus

At times, it seems the only manufacturing base we have left is defense. That cannot succeed without a solid pool of excellent manufacturing engineers.

There was a joke a few decades ago that, in our expanding “services economy,” we would all be shining each others’ shoes.


5 posted on 04/11/2025 5:15:28 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (Don't be a "PANICAN" or a "PANICRAT")
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To: karpov
“The European Union has floated going after big U.S. tech companies in response to Trump's sweeping tariff threats.”

If it is not domiciled in the US, it is not a US company.

Likewise, if a company is domiciled in Delaware, it is not an Arkansas company.

Apple is really an Irish company.

Elon found out how that works, and changed his domicile to Texas.

Apparently, you have to follow the legal expectations of where you are incorporated, but can have benefits, too.

6 posted on 04/11/2025 5:24:50 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: karpov

Services only work until the country being services learns the skills to service themselves.

It is the same in manufacturing. Many countries learned from our manufacturing moving into their nation, then created their own.

The future is near-sourced, local, self-reliant industry and services.


7 posted on 04/11/2025 5:25:07 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (This is the end of the Republic....because we could not keep it.)
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To: karpov

The objective is to have manufacturing moved back to the U.S. to provide good middle-class jobs. Services don’t do that.


8 posted on 04/11/2025 5:26:28 AM PDT by MNnice
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To: karpov
Today's TDS Turd Dropper Story is brought to you by karpov. As they are every day.


9 posted on 04/11/2025 5:29:17 AM PDT by Sirius Lee ("Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”)
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To: karpov

124% tariff on Tiktok.


10 posted on 04/11/2025 5:33:02 AM PDT by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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To: karpov

The service sector doesn’t produce anything!

I’m not saying it’s not a valid business model, but in economic terms, services are not a primary contributor to growth.


11 posted on 04/11/2025 5:33:07 AM PDT by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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To: HombreSecreto

I think the administration has been quite clear on the point you bring up though it’s lost on the WSJ.


12 posted on 04/11/2025 5:40:38 AM PDT by packagingguy
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To: Erik Latranyi
As AI becomes abundant and cheap, the export of services will become more notional than real in a commodity type market with many low cost competitors. That bolsters your conclusion that “the future is near-sourced, local, self-reliant industry and services.”
13 posted on 04/11/2025 5:43:40 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: karpov

and in return they got bonds, software and management consultants.

Bonds!!

Mebe that’s why we’re 36T in debt


14 posted on 04/11/2025 5:47:49 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: karpov

Sure this isn’t the Bee? I’m sure every nation is in a rush to get their share of Disney-style perversion, JPMorgan-style manipulation and Microsoft-style bloat and spy-ware.


15 posted on 04/11/2025 5:50:09 AM PDT by bakeneko
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To: karpov

I, for one, have had quite enough of “getting served” by the Federal government.


16 posted on 04/11/2025 5:54:00 AM PDT by motor_racer ("We're gonna punish our enemies and reward our friends" - Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: karpov
For decades, the U.S. and the rest of the world had a deal: Other countries sent cars, phones, clothes and food to the U.S., and in return they got bonds, software and management consultants.

Sounds like a great deal. /sarcasm off/

Where does military protection come into this equation?

17 posted on 04/11/2025 5:57:31 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("The gallows wait for martyrs whose papers are in order.")
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To: Dutch Boy

It’s a big number.

The question is whether or not the rest of world can do without what we provide.

Especially in the short term.

Talk is cheap.


18 posted on 04/11/2025 5:58:21 AM PDT by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away!)
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To: Alberta's Child

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/nato-allies-have-pledged-over-21-bln-aid-ukraine-2025-rutte-says-2025-04-02/

Suddenly they’re awash in money.


19 posted on 04/11/2025 6:01:06 AM PDT by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away!)
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To: karpov

It is a shame that the WSJ has degraded itself totally to self-interest and not the interest of good Journalism.


20 posted on 04/11/2025 6:03:42 AM PDT by silent majority rising (When it is dark enough, men see the stars. Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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