Ukraine says it killed senior Russian general who died in scooter blast

BBC ^ | Dec 17 | BBC

[RandFan]

Summary

Ukraine says it killed a Russian general who died in an explosion in Moscow on Tuesday morning

Lt Gen Igor Kirillov was at the entrance to a residential block when a device hidden in an electric scooter went off

Sources in the Ukrainian security services tell the BBC Kirillov was a "legitimate target"

On Monday, Kirillov was charged in Kyiv for the use of banned chemical weapons in Ukraine

Kirillov had already been sanctioned by the UK, and others, for his role in Russia's use of chemical weapons

The bomb was remotely operated and contained around 300g of explosives, Russian state media reports

[popdonnelly]

Putin trolls want to know where to send flowers.

[popdonnelly]

You have expertise on that?

[Paul R.]

This is what so many don’t understand: The more that the Russians “win” on the “conventional” battlefield, or if Pooty comes out of negotiations with a sort of “win” where Ukraine is stripped of its best resources, and left losing substantial territory and without iron-clad security (either its own or via NATO), the more the hatred of Russia will run broad and deep, and the greater the unconventional / guerilla war will be.

Regardless of whether you think Putin wants all of Ukraine (I think in the long run he does), in order to quell this opposition, whether you call them Nazis or freedom fighters or Nationalists or partisans or terrorists, Russia will have to try to stamp them out, which will require brutality worthy of Lenin or Stalin, but that will generate even more opposition in the long run. Pooty will have created an enemy hundreds of times greater in numbers than a few thousand Azov types running around Ukraine, and more radicalized, which makes it nastier.

Good going there, Putin, you fool.

[UMCRevMom@aol.com]

“Putin believed what his corrupt, dishonest generals told him, that it would be over so fast and so easy that he didn’t even have to call it a war, and that the Ukrainians would greet the Russian troops as liberators.”

Also, maybe his Russian Generals were continually afraid to tell Putin the truth?

[marktwain]

Trump will make Ukraine surrender or no more $Billions for them.

Trump will make the war stop. Both sides want to "win", but both sides also want the war to stop.

The war has been a disaster for both sides, bad for the West, and a windfall for China.

[marktwain]

One of the big problems with a top down society, is those around the people in power have a huge incentive to tell them what they want to hear.

[UMCRevMom@aol.com]

“Putin trolls want to know where to send flowers.”
https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4284920/posts?page=21#21

Thanks!
Now THAT is funny

[FreedomPoster]

I remember going with dad to where they were running troops through gas mask and tear gas exposure training. Fort Rucker, c. 1967. They went in to a building filled with tear gas wearing their gas masks, checked gas masks for proper operation, then took them off and ran out of the building.

[janetjanet998]

Video of explosion

Video of assassination of Russian general Kirilov
https://rumble.com/v605hm5-video-of-assassination-of-russian-general-kirilov.html

[Vermont Lt]

Russia will retaliate by shooting missiles into pre schools.

It’s kind of like when the Nazis would shoot an entire village in reprisals.

[Eleutheria5]

Destroy a city or two. Kidnap tens of thousands of kids and indoctrinate them against their heritage. Kill and maim with wild abandon. Occupy a few regions. Rape some women and girls. Lay waste to a fertile countryside. What? They got a beef about that?

[bert]

Blah, blah, blah, bull shit.

[Eleutheria5]

“Also, maybe his Russian Generals were continually afraid to tell Putin the truth?”

Aww, but he’s such a devout Christian./sarc

[caww]

.....”Ukrainian security services tell the BBC Kirillov was a “legitimate target”.......

But Zelensky said he wants “peace” ........

[aMorePerfectUnion]

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[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

--- "Putin trolls want to know where to send flowers."

As you'd gotten a "Now THAT is funny" reply to your remark, it seems such directed at other Freepers might be one of the causes of the fund-raising for this quarter being but 75 percent of its goal for the quarter.

"Putin trolls" in this forum and perhaps in this thread are who exactly?

[Who is John Galt?]

[Uncle Miltie]

One at a time?

Ukies gotta up their game!

< / MOSSAD >

[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

There are those with differing perspectives on the ongoing war between two non-NATO nations, without a doubt.

Also without a doubt there are plenty of "voices." Because there's money in it. Your source is interesting:

The Foundation for Defense of Democracies (FDD) is a Washington, DC-based nonpartisan 501(c)(3) research institute focusing on national security and foreign policy. FDD does not accept donations from any foreign governments.

Source: https://www.fdd.org/about-fdd/'

P.O. Box 33249, Washington D.C. 20033

They 'charitably' pay themselves about half of their "charitable donations."

Source for payroll information: https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/134174402

Key Employees and Officers -- Compensation
Mark Dubowitz (Ceo) -- $771,682
Clifford May (President) -- $678,184
Lawrence Muscant (Senior Vice President) -- $610,624
Toby R Dershowitz (Senior Vice President) -- $566,129
Jonathan J Schanzer (Senior Vice President) -- $560,617
William Mc Carthy (Coo) -- $537,597

One hopes you're pulling in that kind of income for your participation in the conversation. But that's being "charitable."

[kiryandil]

You were on this thread like marcus on his Special Ukraine Sock...