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The reason Americans fear for Britain
The Spectator ^ | 10 Dec 2024 | Roger Kimball

Posted on 12/10/2024 5:22:42 PM PST by Rummyfan

The old England, which cherished liberty, is dying and a more sinister society is emerging in its place

As an American Anglophile, I find it difficult not to look upon the news emanating from Great Britain and despair. “Terminally ill pensioners could end their lives earlier to spare loved ones six figure tax bills, experts have warned,” says the Telegraph. A Christian preacher in West London has just had his conviction upheld for standing in silent protest too close to an abortion clinic while holding a placard displaying a Bible verse.

The old England, which cherished liberty, is dying and a more sinister society is emerging in its place. Prime Minister Keir Starmer just gave an extraordinary speech in which he admitted that Britain’s open immigration policies were an “open borders experiment.” He blamed the Tories, even though the floodgates were opened under Tony Blair.

Preserving the emotion of virtue is paramount to Labour, which is why Britain under Starmer, while signaling that he understands the concerns over immigration, has upped the ante on wokeness and censorship.

Following the summer’s violent riots after the Southport attack, a House of Commons Committee on Science and Technology announced that it wanted to call Elon Musk, who owns X (formerly Twitter) to give evidence on “social media, misinformation and harmful algorithms.” Musk responded that the committee members “will be summoned to the United States of America to explain their censorship and threats to American citizens.” Good for him.

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1 posted on 12/10/2024 5:22:42 PM PST by Rummyfan
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I'm also an anglophile, but the formerly great British have with malice of forethought squandered the hundreds of thousands of American lives and billion$ of dollars the US sacrificed to save their bacon in two world wars.

If they were a person you'd have them declared non compos mentis, but you can't so all you can do is try not to let our country catch fire from the sparks as they burn theirs to the ground.

They made this mess, now they get to lie down in it. I haven't an ounce of pity for them

2 posted on 12/10/2024 5:38:12 PM PST by Paal Gulli
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The reason Americans fear for Britain!
The Spectator ^ | 10 Dec 2024 | Roger Kimball
Posted on 12/10/2024, 5:22:42 PM by Rummyfan

The old England, which cherished liberty, is dying and a more sinister society is emerging in its place

As an American Anglophile, I find it difficult not to look upon the news emanating from Great Britain and despair. “Terminally ill pensioners could end their lives earlier to spare loved ones six figure tax bills, experts have warned,” says the Telegraph. A Christian preacher in West London has just had his conviction upheld for standing in silent protest too close to an abortion clinic while holding a placard displaying a Bible verse.

The old England, which cherished liberty, is dying and a more sinister society is emerging in its place. Prime Minister Keir Starmer just gave an extraordinary speech in which he admitted that Britain’s open immigration policies were an “open borders experiment.” He blamed the Tories, even though the floodgates were opened under Tony Blair.

Preserving the emotion of virtue is paramount to Labour, which is why Britain under Starmer, while signaling that he understands the concerns over immigration, has upped the ante on wokeness and censorship.

Following the summer’s violent riots after the Southport attack, a House of Commons Committee on Science and Technology announced that it wanted to call Elon Musk, who owns X (formerly Twitter) to give evidence on “social media, misinformation and harmful algorithms.” Musk responded that the committee members “will be summoned to the United States of America to explain their censorship and threats to American citizens.” Good for him.

(Excerpt) Read more at thespectator.com …

https://thespectator.com/topic/reason-americans-fear-for-britain/


3 posted on 12/10/2024 5:42:19 PM PST by Grampa Dave (If history teaches us anything, It's that history rarely teaches anything. (outofsalt))
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Britain should have stayed out of WWI.


4 posted on 12/10/2024 5:44:26 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Rummyfan

The sun has finally sat on the Union Jack.


5 posted on 12/10/2024 5:57:40 PM PST by MachIV
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I don’t fear Britain.

They’re no threat.

I am concerned that I see us going in the same direction.


6 posted on 12/10/2024 5:58:47 PM PST by metmom
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The last two bits of news I saw from the UK are illustrative of how far they’ve sunk. First, the most common name given to newborn males last year was Mohammed. Second was a YouTube video of a senior British citizen being hooked up in his own home by Scotland Yard for posting something on Facebook that someone took offense to and called the police. I kid you not.


7 posted on 12/10/2024 6:01:17 PM PST by Rowdyone (Vigilence)
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A Christian preacher in West London has just had his conviction upheld for standing in silent protest too close to an abortion clinic while holding a placard displaying a Bible verse.

Haven't similar cases occurred in the US? Britain is going down but the US isn't exactly the shining city on the hill either anymore. The left in the west is winning almost everywhere these days. Yes I'm happy Trump won. Lets hope it starts a trend everywhere.

8 posted on 12/10/2024 6:04:03 PM PST by xp38
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Don’t you mean Londonistan?


9 posted on 12/10/2024 6:13:59 PM PST by Uncle Miltie ("Israel will just have to ... kill more Christians” - FR's own "nitzy")
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BTTT


10 posted on 12/10/2024 6:19:28 PM PST by nopardons
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England was never worth a crap, that’s the reason America exists.


11 posted on 12/10/2024 6:23:32 PM PST by Navy Patriot (I Voted For President Trump, Celebrate Recivilization!)
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We can continue to trade with the UK. We should pull out of NATO. End intelligence sharing through The Five Eyes Alliance with them and other Anglosphere countries.


12 posted on 12/10/2024 6:27:08 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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England is history. They gave their Country away long ago, it is just now coming to fruition. The naivety of their political leadership is unbelievable and the population just goes along with the status quo. Now it is too late.


13 posted on 12/10/2024 6:29:41 PM PST by chopperk (airhi)
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To: Rummyfan

There it is.


14 posted on 12/10/2024 6:50:26 PM PST by sauropod ("You didn't take a country. You only won a football game!" - Dan Dakich Ne supra crepidam)
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The UK and most of Europe have gone full fascist.


15 posted on 12/10/2024 7:01:56 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (We used to be a Republic, we are now a Fascist Klepto-Thugocracy. until Jan 20, 2025)
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To: Navy Patriot

What an idiot.


16 posted on 12/10/2024 7:09:22 PM PST by Romulus ( )
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“End intelligence sharing through The Five Eyes Alliance”

Good point.

One good reason to end it was explained by Snowden.

The English can legally spy on Americans.

Americans can legally spy on English citizens.

One click of the mouse (just between us allies ya know) and both countries have domestic surveillance on their own citizens.

Nasty nasty stuff.


17 posted on 12/10/2024 7:14:41 PM PST by cgbg (It is time to pull the Deep State out of the mass media--like ticks from a dog.)
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The English can legally spy on Americans.

Right. So all we have to do is to ask James Bond over at M16 to spy on us. We can claim that they're helping us to look for Al-Qaeda terrorists.

But we know that's not the case.

Trump should pardon Edward Snowden on day one.

18 posted on 12/10/2024 7:20:28 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: Rummyfan

We’re right behind them

But we have first amendment thankfully for now


19 posted on 12/10/2024 7:21:35 PM PST by wardaddy ( .If the GOPe didn’t go wobbly slightest incoming flak we’d always win)
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Snowden gets a lot of hate around here—but the abuses he disclosed were a house of horrors—and still have not been fixed to this day.

Our number one enemy are our own intelligence services—they are totally out of control.


20 posted on 12/10/2024 7:23:53 PM PST by cgbg (It is time to pull the Deep State out of the mass media--like ticks from a dog.)
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