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New York’s latest test scores show why families are fleeing the public schools
New York Post ^ | Sep. 18, 2024 | Post Editorial Board

Posted on 09/19/2024 6:31:31 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn

It’s easy to see why the State Education Department stalled on releasing the latest English and math test scores for grades 3-8, and why New Yorkers won’t get the final (whitewashed) results until November: They show fewer than half of all kids statewide scoring grade-level-proficient or better in English; just 52% in math.

And, for those that took the science exam, even worse: just 35%.

The kids took the multiple-choice tests back in April and May: SED has no excuse for the absurdly long time in releasing even preliminary results; officials’ protest that they’re trying to produce them “as quickly as possible to improve classroom instruction” is total smoke.

(It’s already too late!)

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Once upon a time, the tests helped determine if students were ready to advance to the next grade; now “social promotion” has become the rule, with academic merit and achievement out the door.

All the tests do now is help expose the failure of public schools to educate our kids (especially those in poor and minority neighborhoods) — which is why SED, the Regents and the unions are pushing to ditch standardized testing entirely.

The educrats should be so ashamed they’d commit seppuku.

Instead, Education Commissioner Betty Rosa, Regents Chancellor Lester Young & Co. just push for ever-greater school spending.

Yet the state has jacked education aid by more than $6 billion since the 2021-22 school year, much of it concentrated on the least-wealthy districts.

New York leads the nation in education spending but ranks near the bottom when it comes to student achievement.

Families fed up with New York’s public schools are fleeing to private academies, charter schools, home-schooling — and other states.

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Government runs schools like they run everything else: poorly.
1 posted on 09/19/2024 6:31:31 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn
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To: SharpRightTurn

Since the parents can’t afford or read a newspaper, I doubt they will know or care.


2 posted on 09/19/2024 6:37:48 AM PDT by cnsmom
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To: SharpRightTurn

The more money they throw at the education system, the worse it’s students become.


3 posted on 09/19/2024 6:40:09 AM PDT by rdcbn1
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How many White students go to these schools ?


4 posted on 09/19/2024 6:41:19 AM PDT by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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To: SharpRightTurn

Home school. You can do it cost effectively on your time and the results will blow you away. Homeschool groups are awesome and generally very God fearing organizations. Lot’s of good friends. Then you have all the higher academic colleges that will fight to get your kids because they actually have an education and can think.


5 posted on 09/19/2024 6:42:58 AM PDT by foundedonpurpose (Praise Hashem, for his restoration of all things! )
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To: SharpRightTurn

If we just made it Felony Child Abuse for ANY Public Employee to send their minor children anywhere other than the Public School System for their primary education, the schools would be fixed overnight.


6 posted on 09/19/2024 6:43:53 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: SharpRightTurn
Families fed up with New York’s public schools are fleeing to private academies, charter schools, home-schooling — and other states.

Only those who can and that is few as a percentage. Education reforms addressing public school failure should be a top issue right up there with immigration and the economy and crime. I'm flabbergasted minimized this failure is, but union money is sufficient to quell criticism apparently.

7 posted on 09/19/2024 6:44:24 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: cnsmom

They don’t care and when their kids can’t get jobs, it’s someone elses fault. Never mind that their kid did nothing to apply him/herself for the entire time they were students

It’s true the schools are abysmal, but I remember that Abe Lincoln never went to school and taught himself to read on his own

If a student wants to work and succeed it doesn’t matter how bad his school is. If he does not want to apply himself, it doesn’t matter how good his school is


8 posted on 09/19/2024 6:46:19 AM PDT by SMARTY (In politics, stupidity is not a handicap. Napoleon Bonaparte I)
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To: SharpRightTurn

BTTT


9 posted on 09/19/2024 6:46:36 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: SharpRightTurn

Public Education is slowly but surely dying and there are many reasons why.

We can thank the radical lesbian heading up the Teachers’ Union. She is a caustic and nasty face for this organization which has done so much to ruin education in America.

Then there’s local school boards and local, state and especially federal government for trashing public education by placing the highly incompetent leftist bureaucrats in key posts.

The future will be Jewish, Christian and private schools.

There is no pace for Muslims and Muslim schools in America. They should return to those Islamic nations where they will be welcome.

Continued presence in America by Muslims and migrants will only lead to combativeness that will end badly.


10 posted on 09/19/2024 6:47:06 AM PDT by ABStrauss (I miss Rush!)
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To: SharpRightTurn

Public schools are full of Pedophiles and are only there to groom children


11 posted on 09/19/2024 6:47:33 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: SharpRightTurn

There was a time - 50 ~ 60 years ago, NYC public schools were among the best in the country. then the UFT took control.

‘nuff said.


12 posted on 09/19/2024 6:49:07 AM PDT by wny
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To: SharpRightTurn

Low-Tuition Cost Private School Models

Many of our fellow Americans live in areas where leftists have poisoned the school systems.

TRADITIONAL TEACHER MODEL

My primary model would have about twenty kids in a class and a tuition of around $4,000/year/student.

Each teacher would set his/her tuition rate and maximum class size and handle student admission. Homeowner associations might host hook-up events for teachers, parents and prospective students. Tuition might be paid monthly for affordability and two months in advance (so it won’t be problem for the teacher if the parents have a major car repair bill one month).

Men and women who have good English and math skills but lack high-value technical skills might choose to become such teachers.

Teachers might provide their SAT scores and college transcript information to prospective parental customers. Independent certification authorities might thoroughly test the teachers and issue report cards.

Classrooms might be set up in commercial space no longer usable for retail stores because of excessive minimum wages or shrinkage.

A classroom might have four rows of five students each and might be around 1,000 square feet in size.

The curriculum might be based on a traditional state model, a current state model, a proprietary model or the teacher’s own handiwork.

PARENTAL ASSISTANCE MODEL

The Parental Assistance Model would have a parent of each child assist the teacher for a period of two weeks each school year.

The teacher would provide necessary training for the parents during several weekends prior to the school year.

Parents who don’t have the time or skill to fulfill their responsibilities would have to pay and arrange for substitutes. At 35 hours a week for two weeks at $30/hour with employer taxation, hiring a substitute might cost $2100. High-income parents would often seek low-income household parents to substitute, thereby helping the low-income household parents pay tuition.

PARENT TEACHER MODEL

The Parental Teacher Model would be the lowest cost form. It would have a parent of each child be a teacher for a period of two weeks each school year.

Parents looking to participate would obtain the necessary training and certification from a specialized training organization over about 100 classroom hours prior to the school year. This organization or another would obtain and maintain the physical classroom space.

Parents who don’t have the time or skill to fulfill their responsibilities would have to pay or arrange for substitutes.

PRIVATE SCHOOL TUITION FUNDING by SCHOOL PROPERTY TAX REBATE

To assist parents in paying tuition and to be fair to the parents, the amount of school taxes they (and perhaps the parents’ parents) pay on their residence(s) might be rebated.

Eventually, rebates might be paid for past year tuition as well, so if parents pay $8,000/year tuition for two kids and $3,000/year in school taxes, the $5,000/year difference could be rebated to the parents in the years after their kids graduate.

It is no longer possible for Republicans to reform systems at the federal level, so Republicans must enact state-level reforms.


13 posted on 09/19/2024 6:54:42 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (Kamala: "some people need more, so we all end up in the same place, right?”)
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In addition, I’d make teaching scalable to leverage costs and quality. IOW, have at least one class a day using a big screen/zoom. One super teacher could teach as many students as can tune in.


14 posted on 09/19/2024 6:57:54 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro

Good idea. I proposed the remote centralized expert teacher model 30 years ago in a letter to the editor. Classrooms would be covered by low pay “shepherds” as I called them. The response that I got from the superintendent of schools and teacher union leader was that they were “appalled”. Perhaps the technology was not ready then - my business was experimenting with teleconferencing with mixed results - but bandwidth and video is certainly available now.


15 posted on 09/19/2024 7:16:51 AM PDT by DeplorablePaul
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To: SharpRightTurn

Defund public schools. We have to burn the village to save it.


16 posted on 09/19/2024 7:18:13 AM PDT by DeplorablePaul
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To: SharpRightTurn

The problem is those people fleeing still have to pay the taxes that support the communist school system. Now the schools get the same income but have less students to deal with. Homeowners and even renters have to pay for commie indoctrination plus the cost of educating their kids properly.
Why and how? Because property taxes are expenses and consumers pay all expenses when they pay rent. Landlords only pay taxes on profits.


17 posted on 09/19/2024 7:23:57 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The world is driven by envy, not greed.)
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To: wny; ABStrauss

I’m a retired urban public school teacher. Permit me to make two points.

1. I fought my corrupt teachers union every step of the way. But the unions have very little to do with the decline of public schools. They have zero input into what is being taught in the classroom or how the schools are managed.

2. I could write a book about what’s wrong with urban public education. Instead I’ll just mention the top two problems.

- Disruptive students are tolerated by administrators. These administrators get bonuses and promotions when their suspension numbers are low. So they suspend very few disruptive students.

In a class of 25 students, one or two chronically disruptive kids can and do put a complete stop to learning. It’s tough to teach algebra when you have one kid running around the room and two more yelling at each other.

- The second problem is attendance. Even in my worst classes most of the kids were okay. But they only came to school maybe three or four times a week. Missing 12 school days in a quarter was not uncommon.

So, can urban public schools be fixed? I think not. They are too far gone.


18 posted on 09/19/2024 7:26:55 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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Disruptive students are tolerated by administrators.

Yes, that is a substantiated claim and it makes teaching/learning near impossible.

19 posted on 09/19/2024 7:29:29 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: SharpRightTurn

Test scores. And sexual degeneracy.


20 posted on 09/19/2024 7:30:01 AM PDT by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along. )
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