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To: Scott from the Left Coast
Fox polling always leans heavily left. Heavily.

Really? I just read the 19 pages of Fox poll results and methodology and it looks like 42% of those polled were Democrats and 43% were Republicans.

14 posted on 09/18/2024 8:12:57 PM PDT by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Trump & Vance, 2024! (Formerly) Goldwater & Thomas Sowell in 2024)
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To: thegagline

They’ve been heavily left wing for at least two decades…there are more ways to skew samples than just party ID…if we even believe what they state to begin with.


18 posted on 09/18/2024 8:18:51 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast (Peak crazy is almost here.)
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To: thegagline

LOL, nonsequitur. That can mean 85 percent raging liberals.


22 posted on 09/18/2024 8:24:38 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: thegagline

15% Independents? Less than that given Greens and Libertarian.

This is highly questionable. 43/42 for R/D is not even remotely useful with a presumption of 15% Independents.

I would guess, I will get around to going back to look, but I would guess this is not the same turnout model used in August. Nobody would allow their product to remain 15% Independent.

Registered vs Likely means nothing nowadays. VBM erased that.

They must have had a very tiny Hispanic sample to get that large a swing.

I do see problems with these guys, and a 3% move is MOE territory, and national, with Calif and NY dominating.

Get this through your heads FR . . . Trump is not going to win the Popular Vote with those enormous leads for Harris in Calif and NY. And whoever above it was that said 2% loses is correct. Because of the overconcentration in those two states.


74 posted on 09/18/2024 10:10:55 PM PDT by Owen
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To: thegagline

That leaves only 15% for Independents. Aren’t they the largest group?

They must have used Cheney’s phone contacts to find Republicans to poll.


93 posted on 09/19/2024 2:15:47 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: thegagline; Scott from the Left Coast; Olog-hai; Owen; tired&retired
Scott from the Left Coast: "Fox polling always leans heavily left. Heavily."

thegagline: "Really? I just read the 19 pages of Fox poll results and methodology and it looks like 42% of those polled were Democrats and 43% were Republicans."

Fox does use a left-leaning pollster, estimated as skewing roughly 2% towards Harris, which means Fox is actually calling the popular vote "even" as of today.

More conservative pollsters still give Trump the edge:

  1. Atlas Intel +3% Trump national
  2. Rasmussen +2% Trump national
  3. NY Times +1% Trump national (not conservative)
Trafalgar is more conservative, and they are showing Trump slightly ahead in key "swing states" (WI, AZ, PA, NC, GA) but have not issued a recent national report.
Trafalgar shows Harris tied or ahead in Nevada and Michigan.

Finally, whether a pollster is left-leaning or conservative, the electoral college math works out that Harris will need at least +3% in the popular vote to achieve an electoral college win.

In other words, Harris +3% means the electoral college vote will most likely be tied, so she needs more than 3% to win the election.

If I remember correctly, in 2020 Biden was +7% as of September, and in 2016 Clinton was +5%, so Harris is trailing both of them.

So, Trump is still slightly favored, imho.

103 posted on 09/19/2024 3:53:52 AM PDT by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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