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Negotiate with Moscow to end the Ukraine war and prevent nuclear devastation
The Hill ^ | 9/27/24 | RFK, Jr. and Donald Trump, Jr.

Posted on 09/17/2024 10:35:34 AM PDT by hardspunned

The New York Times reported Thursday that the Biden administration is considering allowing Ukraine to use NATO-provided long-range precision weapons against targets deep inside Russia. Such a decision would put the world at greater risk of nuclear conflagration than at any time since the Cuban missile crisis. At a time when American leaders should be focused on finding a diplomatic off-ramp to a war that should never have been allowed to take place, the Biden-Harris administration is instead pursuing a policy that Russia says it will interpret as an act of war. In the words of Vladimir Putin, long-range strikes in Russia “will mean that NATO countries — the United States and European countries — are at war with Russia.”

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TOPICS: War
KEYWORDS: appeasement; brics; killkillkillforpeace; landforpeace; mic; nozeepforpeace; tothelastukrainian; ukraine; welfarewar; zeepersoutraged
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Putin knows he can’t negotiate with the current gang of western bosses. They all lie through their warmongering teeth.
1 posted on 09/17/2024 10:35:34 AM PDT by hardspunned
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To: hardspunned

No nuclear war over Ukraine!

Lord have Mercy!


2 posted on 09/17/2024 10:41:30 AM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: hardspunned

At this point, that can probably only work if Trump demonstrates that he has the deep state and the war wing of the repubs solidly by the throat.
Otherwise, the Russians will think whatever deal they get will last about 2.5 years... then the neocons will resurge.

Personally, I think the neocons and Biden did so much damage to the dollar, that even ending the sanctions, turning SWIFT back on, returning the stolen gold etc won’t restore trust.

It’s truly incalculable the damage they did to America in their Ukraine adventure.


3 posted on 09/17/2024 10:41:51 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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To: hardspunned

The Russians will be very wary of a Minsk 2.0 where we desperately want a ceasefire so we can flood Ukraine with weapons and alliances like some kind of NATO-lite. Spend a few years building them up, standing up a huge Air Force etc.

If they think that is the plan, a deal would be tough to get.


4 posted on 09/17/2024 10:44:25 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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To: hardspunned

President Trump is the only Western National Leader that is Trustworthy.


5 posted on 09/17/2024 10:50:25 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Navy Patriot

After 2 unsuccessful assassination attempts, Putin also knows any deal Trump negotiates could come to a quick end if Trump is dead.


6 posted on 09/17/2024 11:03:34 AM PDT by srmanuel
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To: hardspunned

It;s not necessary to let Ukraine blow Moscow off the map as Kiev still remains mostly undamaged. But perhaps its time to tell Putin to chose between Ukraine and Cuba and.or Venezuela? Let him know we will liberate both countries unless he gets his troops out of Ukraine in 30 days. It would be his choice. Maybe another tactic would be to move nukes into Romania, Poland and Finland? We have cards to play without blowing up the world.


7 posted on 09/17/2024 11:08:47 AM PDT by Midwesterner53
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To: DesertRhino

I couldn’t agree more


8 posted on 09/17/2024 11:09:39 AM PDT by ducttape45 (Jeremiah 17:9, "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?")
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To: srmanuel
After 2 unsuccessful assassination attempts, Putin also knows any deal Trump negotiates could come to a quick end if Trump is dead.

Yes, which explains the Zeeper Assassination Corps and it's connections, now being uncovered by many parallel investigations, inquiries and true Journalists.

9 posted on 09/17/2024 11:10:38 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: hardspunned

Putin knows that if he uses nukes he would be dead. This time hr said that the US would be at war with him if they allow Ukraine to use the US weapons in Russia. He hasn’t mentioned nukes this time.

He gets to use Iran, North Korea and Other weapons to blow up hospitals in Ukraine and the west is scared of Putin? Hasn’t anyone noticed that Russia has not been able to capture Ukraine in almost 3 years?

And with their shoddy weapons, what makes anyone think their nukes will make it out of Russia. The people who post here against Ukraine are mostly Russian bots.


10 posted on 09/17/2024 11:55:31 AM PDT by POGO163
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The people who post here against Ukraine are mostly Russian bots.

POGO163 Free Republic born-on date: 2023-12-07

Welcome to Free Republic, Ukrainian zeeper bot.

11 posted on 09/17/2024 12:03:20 PM PDT by kiryandil (Kraft durch Freude! - The Kamunist and The Walzrus )
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To: POGO163

Zeeper POGO163, new assignment, replace Zeeper lost in West Palm Beach, Florida, USA.


12 posted on 09/17/2024 12:14:06 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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Personally, I think the neocons and Biden did so much damage to the dollar, that even ending the sanctions, turning SWIFT back on, returning the stolen gold etc won’t restore trust.

Where I live, we have a sayin' that addresses that little problem......

It's closing the barn door after the cows are gone!

Oh sure. They'll dissolve BRICs, ASEAN, and the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) when the GDP of these groups exceeds the GDP of the West (G7) -- 'cause we can now trust them Americans. Yep. That's the ticket.

It’s truly incalculable the damage they did to America in their Ukraine adventure.

You sure got that right!

13 posted on 09/17/2024 12:18:25 PM PDT by icclearly
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To: DesertRhino
It’s truly incalculable the damage they did to America in their Ukraine adventure.

Very true. We are 4.23% of the world's population. Brics is already at about 50% and this map is going to get more red very soon. All because of US Dollar weaponization/sanctions and the US deceit in Ukraine against Russia. The world is saying NO to US/West treachery. Like NATO Turkey, we will see more NATO countries joining BRICS too, as they crumble under high energy prices after the US freed them of Russian oil and gas.

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40 More Countries Want to Join BRICS, Says South Africa

14 posted on 09/17/2024 12:19:47 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: POGO163

And why are you not at the front fighting for THE Ukie cause ??


15 posted on 09/17/2024 12:25:24 PM PDT by ANKE69 ( ✌️ 🇺🇲 )
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To: hardspunned
Putin knows he can’t negotiate with the current gang of western bosses.

Yeah, Putin is the good guy here.

They all lie through their warmongering teeth.

Putin never lies. He doesn't seek wars and is always a peaceful man. He has never called for wars or invasions, and he has never killed anyone. He's the second coming of Christ.
16 posted on 09/17/2024 12:58:11 PM PDT by adorno (CCH)
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slava ukraini, or whatever. instead of posting on forums, get yourself over to ukr and defend a trench. It’s really not that hard to travel to eastern europe. Put yourself on the line for ukr . It seems most are happy to see an entire generation of young ukr men being slaughtered but aren’t anxious to fight themselves.


17 posted on 09/17/2024 1:05:48 PM PDT by ozarker
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instead of posting on forums, get yourself over to ukr and defend a trench. It’s really not that hard to travel to eastern europe. Put yourself on the line for ukr .

Nope! Been there, done that, but just for the U.S. And, I'm too old to qualify for fighting another war.

But, you seem to be very gung-ho for Putin and Russia, so, how many times have you been in the trenches helping Putin in his invasion of Ukraine? Come on. Tell the truth, Mr Treason.

Helping Putin is exactly what's needed to wipe out an entire generation of Ukrainians, and you seem very eager to help Putin with his evil deeds. Satan could not be more helpful.

It seems most are happy to see an entire generation of young ukr men being slaughtered but aren’t anxious to fight themselves.

So, ask Putin to stop doing it, and stop your support for Putin. Nobody will die in the future if Putin stops the slaughters. Stop urging him to murder so many more.

And, if you're so anxious to help Putin in his devastation of Ukraine, YOU can go there and be one of his generals.


18 posted on 09/17/2024 1:16:08 PM PDT by adorno (CCH)
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Pay no attention to Globalist Uke Nazi Supporter Theodor Adorno. He's a Cowardly International Marxist Homosexual infatuated with the International Dictator Saint Zelensky.

That's why he's not in Ukraine backing up his Bull Manure.

19 posted on 09/17/2024 1:59:55 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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Pay no attention to Globalist Uke Nazi Supporter Theodor Adorno.

I have no idea what a globalist Uke NAZI supporter is, but you do seem to be very informed about what that mess is. So, why do you want to point the fingers at others about what you do and what you're about? Can't stand yourself?

He's a Cowardly International Marxist

Again, accusing others of what you do is the exact thing that a coward does. Look over there, not here. Recognize yourself?

Homosexual

That's the furthest thing that my friends and family would ever think about me, but, you do seem to be hung-up on the homosexual lifestyle, but do keep that to yourself. Accusing others of what you are is very obvious. What part of the LGBTQ+ community are you? I bet you identify as ALL of them.

infatuated with the International Dictator Saint Zelensky.

Z, as you describe, has NEVER been a dictator, and is the leader of the only nation defending itself from the REAL dictator who wants to take over Z's country and that of the Ukrainian people. Putin has been a dictator since he came into office, and only idiots would not be able to recognize that fact. You continue loving YOUR dictator. Traitor! That's why he's not in Ukraine backing up his Bull Manure
20 posted on 09/17/2024 2:33:13 PM PDT by adorno (CCH)
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