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Ending the Boeing strike won’t be easy. Here’s why.
Everett Herald (Everett, WA) ^ | September 14, 2024 | Peter Eavis

Posted on 09/15/2024 3:17:19 PM PDT by Salman

When thousands of Boeing employees rejected a new labor contract, precipitating a strike that began Friday, they were at odds not just with management but also with the leaders of their union, who backed the proposed deal.

Now, any attempt to reach an agreement must take account of the demands of the rank and file of the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers. What they want — significantly larger pay raises and far more lucrative retirement benefits than their leaders and Boeing agreed to — may be too much for management. But labor experts said the strength of the strike vote — 96% in favor — should help the union get a better deal.

“Those overwhelming numbers are kind of embarrassing, certainly from a public relations standpoint for the union,” said Jake Rosenfeld, a sociologist who studies labor at Washington University in St. Louis. “But they also simultaneously present the union with leverage when it does resume negotiations.”

And Boeing is in a difficult spot after a slowdown in commercial jet production — required by regulators after a panel blew out of a passenger jet fuselage in January — led to big financial losses. A long strike at Boeing’s main production base in the Seattle area would add significantly to the losses and possibly tip its credit rating into junk territory, a chilling development for a company with nearly $60 billion in debt.

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West, the Boeing executive, said Friday that the company would be “laser-like-focused on actions to conserve cash.” Moody’s Investors Service said Friday that it was weighing whether to downgrade Boeing’s credit rating to noninvestment grade — “junk” territory.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: aviation; boeing; strike; unions
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1 posted on 09/15/2024 3:17:19 PM PDT by Salman
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To: Salman

Does the public want a bunch of unsatisified and pissed off employyes building commercial planes?


2 posted on 09/15/2024 3:20:38 PM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: Salman
If the workers contributed to a good product things would be different. But Boeing has become the Yugo of the aerospace industry. Failure to follow procedures, failure to have assemblies inspected, counterfeit parts, out sourcing to bottom feeders—Boeing is a disgrace.

3 posted on 09/15/2024 3:23:18 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: Salman

Boeing should shut down. I’m afraid to fly on any of their planes, so I drive when flying would be much easier.
Their space program is a joke. Spacecraft had multiple leaks when returning to earth. I’ll bet the problems come down to unqualified workers performing the work.
I can weld. But I can’t weld well enough to weld chemical pipes and I wouldn’t try. When their space place was coming back to earth, the thrusters were failing. It barely made it back.
And the gubmint is funding the program. Elon is doing it with him own money.


4 posted on 09/15/2024 3:24:19 PM PDT by TStro (God created everyone equal. Samuel Colt made them polite)
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To: Salman

DEI. Didn’t Earn It


5 posted on 09/15/2024 3:28:59 PM PDT by Vaquero (In Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you. )
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To: TStro

If it’s Boeing 737 MAX

I’m not going


6 posted on 09/15/2024 3:39:38 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

A successful company must have quality management AND a reasonable union. If either is missing, the company cannot succeed.

Boeing cannot succeed.


7 posted on 09/15/2024 3:48:54 PM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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The last union on earth that should be striking


8 posted on 09/15/2024 3:54:52 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist! )
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To: mikey_hates_everything

Fire every last one of them.


9 posted on 09/15/2024 3:54:56 PM PDT by yldstrk
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To: Salman

I want something in the agreement saying the people that build those planes have to take all the test flights along with the pilots.


10 posted on 09/15/2024 3:58:47 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (This world is driven by envy, not greed.)
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To: TStro

Then what happens to the rest of the US aviation industry? You would turn over the commercial aircraft industry to a government subsidized European consortium. We only have one American company that makes commercial jets.


11 posted on 09/15/2024 4:04:19 PM PDT by kaktuskid
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To: mikey_hates_everything
With all of the positive publicity Boeing has gotten recently, raising prices to cover increased labor costs should be real easy.

Or maybe Boeing should move its facilities to somewhere less expensive and subject to less regulation, like California.

12 posted on 09/15/2024 4:32:37 PM PDT by Bernard (I just clicked over another tag line, Time to run without for a while.)
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To: TStro

“ I’m afraid to fly on any of their planes,”

Huge over reaction to the media. I’d like to think people on this site would know better.


13 posted on 09/15/2024 4:32:49 PM PDT by Gary from Dayton (Army Vet 1986-1991 unburdened by what I was burdened by before.)
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To: mikey_hates_everything

Not only NO-—BUT HELL NO


14 posted on 09/15/2024 4:38:33 PM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: Salman

never piss off the people that are making your sandwich...


15 posted on 09/15/2024 4:48:57 PM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value and makes people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: Salman

They have taken a page from Hollywood, go on strike against an industry that is struggling. Boeing is in debt and their reputation is all but gone A long strike could very well kill them.

Then where will all those workers go for jobs?


16 posted on 09/15/2024 5:00:00 PM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (My opinions are the rusult of 80 years of life, you may not like them but who cares.)
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To: Salman

According to friends and family who are long time employees and/or retired from Boeing, the company culture changed from engineering advances and safety when McDonnell-Douglas took over to minimizing costs and the bottom line there when the bean counters and institutional investors took ownership.

The result is what we’re witnessing today.


17 posted on 09/15/2024 5:03:35 PM PDT by Bob Wills is still the king (Just a Texas Playboy at heart!)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

“ If the workers contributed to a good product things would be different. But Boeing has become the Yugo of the aerospace industry. Failure to follow procedures, failure to have assemblies inspected, counterfeit parts, out sourcing to bottom feeders—Boeing is a disgrace.”
It’s not The Boeing Company that I worked with in my 35+ years in the industry. I believe that their downfall started when they merged with McDonnell Douglas.

Trusted companies in my day:
Boeing
Hughes
Martin-Marietta
Ford aerospace
General Dynamics

Not trusted:
Raytheon
United Technologies
McDonnell Douglas
Lockheed


18 posted on 09/15/2024 5:04:37 PM PDT by wjcsux (On 3/14/1883 Karl Marx gave humanity his best gift, he died. )
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To: Bernard

They have a big plant in So Car


19 posted on 09/15/2024 5:17:01 PM PDT by 556x45
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To: Salman

Only 130k year! A mere pittance, you union wankers. Demand a quarter of a million, it’s only fair.


20 posted on 09/15/2024 5:32:17 PM PDT by technically right
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