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1 posted on 09/14/2024 6:59:57 AM PDT by cutty
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It makes sense in the context of Cloward-Piven


2 posted on 09/14/2024 7:02:51 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's going to take real, serious, hard times to wake the American public.)
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Bookmark to read later, because I still don’t know what Cloward-Piven is.


3 posted on 09/14/2024 7:05:38 AM PDT by NetAddicted (MAGA2024)
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To: cutty

BTTT


4 posted on 09/14/2024 7:05:55 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: cutty

There’s already been a war on poverty.


6 posted on 09/14/2024 7:13:35 AM PDT by existentially_kuffer
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Been saying this for 5 YEARS!!


10 posted on 09/14/2024 7:20:06 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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The problem with this analysis is it ONLY works as long as the fed gubment goes along with re-funding the cities. If Trump’s feds say “screw you,” Cloward-Piven becomes a REVERSE Cloward-Piven and defunds the blue areas to the benefit of the country and rural classes.


13 posted on 09/14/2024 7:21:39 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." Jimi Hendrix)
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Excellent article. Clearly describes the strategy, and explains why so much the left does appears to be illogical and destructive.

It is designed to be destructive.

It is an essentially religious belief of the Left that they will prevail once the destruction occurs.

15 posted on 09/14/2024 7:23:27 AM PDT by marktwain (The Republic is at risk. Resistance to the Democratic Party is Resistance to Tyranny. )
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Thank you for posting some explanation of something that is continually mentioned on this forum. There does not seem to be an explanation of the reasoning of this retarded idea, however. What is the point in the destruction of America? There is no longer a Soviet Union to benefit from this. In fact, the USSR’s collapse appears to fundamentally repudiate the idiocies of Socialism.

Do these retards get off on the concept of distributing poverty? That seems to be all that they are offering.

As a final note, you could replace all of this complex strategy with the simple installation of Women into government, and largely achieve the same results, it appears to me.


16 posted on 09/14/2024 7:25:00 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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Here are some original articles, on Cloward Piven and 0barky’s Manufactured Crisis tactics ... from nearly two decades ago ...

September 28, 2008

Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2008/09/barack_obama_and_the_strategy.html

November 23, 2009

Cloward-Piven Government

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/11/clowardpiven_government.html

22 posted on 09/14/2024 7:31:27 AM PDT by Jane Long (The role of the GOP: to write sharply-worded letters as America becomes a communist hell-hole.)
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“Cloward-Piven: The Strategy Being Used Against America”

Strikingly successful, it would appear. But their “success” leads to failure of just about everything else, sucking all resources down into a black hole.

Nobody seems able to say, “Enough! Stop!”

So the meat grinder keeps turning.

Soylent Green, anyone?


24 posted on 09/14/2024 7:32:25 AM PDT by alloysteel (I've told people a million times, "Don't exaggerate.")
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fl8


25 posted on 09/14/2024 7:33:22 AM PDT by Nailbiter
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Very true but those two turds never figured their plan was almost but not strong enough to kill America but would kill rodent run cities and states,


33 posted on 09/14/2024 7:40:55 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Freedom is never free. It must be won rewon and jealously guarded.)
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The United States currently faces an existential threat under the leadership of Joe Biden

How absurd!

The number of people who think Biden is setting policy and making decisions around here is shocking.

And the Trump campaign fell right into the trap of designing a run against someone who was NEVER going to be the candidate they would have to beat on election day.

35 posted on 09/14/2024 7:43:34 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et de phrases)
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Ask Springfield, Ohio, how Cloward-Piven is working out for them.


36 posted on 09/14/2024 7:46:18 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (You Say You Want a Revolution?)
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I believe in Cloward-Piven for conservatives.

When Fed.gov goes bankrupt, the deep-state can no longer function and there’s the chance to return to the Constitution.


37 posted on 09/14/2024 7:50:21 AM PDT by PGR88
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Cloward and Piven were the theorists on how to overthrow the government of the United states and Saul Alinsky was their tactician.

Here are some quotes from Sall Alinsky from back in the day that, in retrospect, really resonate with a lot of what we are seeing.

https://www.azquotes.com/author/247-Saul_Alinsky?p=5

And now it comes out that Gov Tim Walzs was Paul Wellstone Academy graduate instructed in the method of Saul Alinsky and Cloward and Piven. Including being personally mentored by Francis Fox Piven.,

40 posted on 09/14/2024 7:58:46 AM PDT by rdcbn1
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Eighty-four Great Society bills were passed during the 89th Congress (1965-1966) and signed into law by Johnson. Major Great Society legislation passed with bipartisan support. source

LBJ and friends were already in full stride buying votes with welfare when Coward and Piven published their strategy in a May 1966. "The Weight of the Poor: A Strategy to End Poverty". (The Nation)

I don't know how much C-P had to do with the mess we're in, but LBJ perfected the art of vote buying. He was the most destructive president in our history.

42 posted on 09/14/2024 8:18:06 AM PDT by PerConPat (The politician is an animal which can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground.- Mencken)
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Basic communism, hiding in plain sight for the past 100 years in America. Growing stronger each year.

Very sad that this article is 50 years old and nobody knows about 'Cloward Piven'

It's basically: Throw a wrench in every working machine. Pour sand in every gas tank.

Destroy every supply chain.

Render every worker unemployed.

Then leverage this catastrophic instability into communist overthrow.

We saw one version with the 'epidemic'.

People better start understanding the game quick or we will be beaten by these demons.

43 posted on 09/14/2024 8:29:48 AM PDT by caddie
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Bkmk


45 posted on 09/14/2024 8:42:50 AM PDT by sauropod ("This is a time when people reveal themselves for who they are." James O'Keefe Ne supra crepidam)
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Cloward and Pivon are both dead! So there is some good news!


46 posted on 09/14/2024 8:51:51 AM PDT by Highest Authority (DemonRats are pure EVIL)
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