Posted on 09/12/2024 10:10:42 AM PDT by hardspunned
President Putin warns that NATO will enter a direct war with Russia if Ukraine uses long-range Western missiles to strike inside Russia.
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Ukraine (Zelensky) would do better, using the missiles against the Russian logistics infrastructure in Ukraine, and along the Russian border with Ukraine.
Zelensky (Ukraine) still aims to win, when he (it) would do better to survive with a position of strength.
He keeps spending, when Ukraine needs saving. He should be building up Ukraine’s strength.
Ukraine does not have the power to regain the Donbas[s].
Moscow (Putin) is wrong to think that Putin (Moscow) can win over a Ukraine in a state of socialist gaia that lays in servitude to Moscow’s notions.
I appreciate your concern and your reply.
The Russians have been demonstrating how to do just that to Ukraine with little blowback from the Ukes so far.
Let us have the Ukes demonstrate big blow back with many many killed and much priceless infrastructure and history destroyed in Moscow and St, Petersburg.
Thousands.
Again, the Russians are bluffing.
Call them on it, Ukes!
Make them bleed copiously and we will see about negotiations to end this useless war.
>> I think the thing I’m going to miss most is hot water.
There, there... we’ll be okay as long as we have the truly important things:
Football
Abortion on demand
Taylor Swift
Video games
and (of course) our cellphones
“I call Bullsh*t
Russia is bluffing.”
I’d be fine with this if you were the only fool who could get nuked.
The arguments don’t change much.
There is an unfortunate presumption that the US has things that Russia wants.
What are these things? Exactly what are these things?
Oil? They have more. Natural gas? They have more. Money? That is created by decree and they have their own central bank that can issue its own decree. Food? They have more. Our year round fruit comes from central America. Theirs comes from India, Thailand and surprisingly, bananas from Ecuador.
Beach resorts? They have Sochi. And did anyone really think nuclear war is going to break out because a populace demands to have more beach resorts?
There are these bizarre stereotypes about Russia that lead people to think they are starving.
Here is a young lady shopping at a Novosibirsk grocery store. I see no scarcity.
Who knew the little globohomo Z was such a master geopolitical genius ?!
-fJRoberts-
Absolutely correct. But you know the doctrine I refer.
The new doctrine is exclusively first strike at even a suspect of initial attack.
Russia does not have initial warning systems we have-sat systems. What they have is early radar warning systems that are limited in scope. Meaning they see only so far. Thar leaves them in the doctrine of anticipation. Very dangerous.
This is why when the stupies..err ukies blew a hole in that system some time ago, the pentagon went nuts on them.
So, we will send longer range nuclear capable missiles over to stupieland so they can launch them at Russia.
Considering the above, which way does anyone with any sense thinks Russia will respond?
Remember this. All the years Russian warned the west they viewed an advance of NATO into its sphere of influence will not be tolerated. The west has, and Russia has responded.
It is NOT all bluff and bluster.
And consider that hustorically, Russia has had the ability to suffer extreme hardships and have historically survived.
Can the USA? Especially since we have been infiltrated by subversives? How much damage will 5 to 10 percent of those illegals do if they are triggered?
Only utter fools would do this or support this.
Russia will absolutely strike back when NATO uses Ukrainian proxies to attack important sites in Russia.
FAFO.
LOL The Russians can barely cope with the AFU, let alone NATO.
I thought Russia said they are at war with NATO from the beginning....
“China has four months to escalate the Ukraine war into a nuclear conflagration between Russia and NATO.”
What an extremely insane stupid comment !
If Russia nukes anyone, Russia gets nuked. Its a death wish. Putin may be stupid, but he is not crazy.
All good points.
>> Russia has had the ability to suffer extreme hardships and have historically survived... Can the USA?
Only by the grace of GOD. Much of the western world has succumbed to self-inflicted mental illness, just like our corrupt current leadership has.
We live in very “interesting” times, FRiend.
I appreciate your opinion and concern, I truly do.
We will never be safe or better off by kowtowing to nuclear blackmailers like Putin or if we do nuclear blackmail ourselves for material or partisan political purposes.
It is demeaning and debases the USA for it to say officially, that we will stand with Ukraine and do WHATEVER it takes to assure they prevail against Russia and then whimper and cower as if helpless when Russia bluffs and blusters its nuclear threats. Either we mean what we say or we do not.
Give the Ukes the wherewithal in equipment and stop restraining them.
Let them bomb whatever parts of Russia they want, all day and nights long.
If Russia is stupid enough to launch nukes at us over it then they were too unstable and dangerous to be allowed to exist and threaten us and whoever and we should absolutely pulverize them to nothing. In the name of world security.
Let’s stop kidding ourselves. We are at war with Russia already, Ukraine is just a buffer between the two of us. This will likely get worse before it gets better. This madness has to stop.
I am concerned that current policy of half-heartedly supporting Ukraine with restrictions on how those weapons may or may not be used is actually more dangerous than escalating the weapons use parameters because it sets up dangerous expectations in the Russian mindset about what is on and off the table and leaves them driving the narrative with the West reacting and slowly losing. Expanding the use of the weapons and more of them is the only way to overcome Russia’s demographic advantages and ability to produce artillery shells and tubes. We should play to win, not play to “not lose”.
The feckless Biden cabal running things notwithstanding.
Did he word it wrong or did we translate it backwards?
He wants to be Ceausescu.
The Dictator and his wife were killed by there own people. I do not think that is the fate of Putin. The Romanian people were sick of Ceausescu’s and there controlling ways—Putin has not employed their tactics like controlling what you eat.
Russians are not like us. Their anger is directed against the west—always has been. But, I do not see any overt acts until after the elections—At this point A big strike on Kiev is more likely with a block buster or vacuum bomb—
Learn to mind your own business.
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