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Ford Wants To Build Hybrids Instead of All-Electric Cars. The EPA Hates That.
Reason ^ | August 23, 2024 | Joe Lancaster

Posted on 08/24/2024 1:38:41 PM PDT by karpov

One of the country's largest automakers announced this week that it was shifting its focus away from battery-powered electric vehicles (E.V.s) in favor of hybrids that still use some amount of gasoline. The decision to prioritize a transitional technology makes sense, even though federal regulators might not be happy.

Ford Motor Co. CFO John Lawler told journalists Wednesday that the company would be shifting its focus away from all-electric vehicles. This included scrapping an electric three-row SUV previously planned for release in 2025.

The decision marks a major shift in the company's priorities. Two years ago, the automaker restructured, cleaving its production line into two divisions: Ford Blue, which would continue to make traditional vehicles with internal combustion engines, and Ford Model e, which would make its growing line of E.V.s.

Ford has seen strong E.V. sales: In the second quarter of 2024, its Mustang Mach-E and F-150 Lightning recorded respective year-over-year sales growth of 58 percent and 79 percent.

But it hasn't been all upside: The Model e division recorded losses of $1.3 billion in the first quarter of this year, averaging out to a staggering $132,000 loss per vehicle. For context, a fully loaded F-150 Lightning costs less than $100,000. The division also lost another $1.3 billion in the third quarter of 2023, which it attributed in part to "challenging market dynamics."

Instead, the company is prioritizing vehicles it thinks can sell more easily. "We're committed to creating long-term value by building a competitive and profitable business," Lawler said in a press release, focusing on vehicle models that could become profitable "within the first 12 months of launch."

Ford will continue to produce the Mach-E and F-150 Lightning, but Lawler indicated the company will begin to prioritize hybrids, which use both gas and electric motors.

(Excerpt) Read more at reason.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: cars; electricvehicles; epa; ford; hybrids
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1 posted on 08/24/2024 1:38:41 PM PDT by karpov
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To: karpov

I would buy a hybrid or any other type of stupid electric cars.


2 posted on 08/24/2024 1:42:45 PM PDT by Ronald77
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To: karpov
.......electric three-row SUV..

How hard could it be to change from purely electric to hybrid? Seems to me like just a little redesign.

3 posted on 08/24/2024 1:44:38 PM PDT by jimtorr
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To: karpov

Hybrids don’t catch fire?


4 posted on 08/24/2024 1:48:09 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: karpov

A hybrid seems to make sense to me - I assume (yeah, I know) it charges the battery as you drive along on the gas engine.

However, I haven’t studied how long the battery lasts and how much it costs to replace it.


5 posted on 08/24/2024 1:56:20 PM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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To: karpov

Hybrids were always the smarter option if your gal was better fuel economy.


6 posted on 08/24/2024 1:58:03 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Paladin2

Battery is significantly smaller then an EV Battery.

Lithium essentially spontaneously combusts Due to how much is in the battery.

Same reason your phone is unlikely to explode even though it’s lithium. Not enough there to cause a reaction.

Cars can and always will catch fire, but EVS are the most likely of all of them


7 posted on 08/24/2024 1:59:58 PM PDT by SPDSHDW (Execute Order 66....)
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To: karpov
"federal regulators might not be happy"

The PEOPLE vs FEDZILLA...

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, FORCE THE PROLES INTO EVs, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
I'm always amazed at how people miss that EV part of the preamble.
8 posted on 08/24/2024 2:01:36 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“When exposing a crime is treated like a crime, you are being ruled by criminals” – Edward Snowden)
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To: Paladin2
Fewer batteries so it's more like a camp fire.

More seriously, I would consider a plug in hybrid. Most days I would be able to run all electric to work and back and then run on gas for longer trips or cold days when the engine's waste heat can heat the cat interior. Everyone I know with an all electric car has another car for long trips.

9 posted on 08/24/2024 2:02:01 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (7/13/2024:The day the Democrats and their SA chose assassination as their primary political tool.)
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To: Ronald77

Almost half this country’s existing homes still have a 60A service.

They won’t be buying an EV or a hybrid any time soon.


10 posted on 08/24/2024 2:04:24 PM PDT by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: KarlInOhio

Cat interior -> car interior. The interior of the cat is quite warm enough considering the amount of sunlight the exterior absorbs.


11 posted on 08/24/2024 2:04:59 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (7/13/2024:The day the Democrats and their SA chose assassination as their primary political tool.)
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To: libertylover

I knew someone who had a Prius hybrid, and I believe she ultimately ditched it because the battery was coming due for replacement. So I’d guess not cheap. Then again, vehicle maintenance is getting harder for those who do it themselves, and more expensive towards those who have to rely on others to do the work.


12 posted on 08/24/2024 2:05:23 PM PDT by Antihero101607
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To: karpov

All these people are idiots!
Battery technology just isn’t
“There” yet.
This is all Democrat political BS.
Your life is being controlled by
Politicians not you.
If you leave it to normal market forces,
power plants, distribution, and battery power will
catch up, if they are cheaper and better.
Make it political and you will fail.


13 posted on 08/24/2024 2:18:38 PM PDT by rellic (rough)
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To: karpov
This is the logical next step from pure ICE to pure electrical cars. The Greens hate to “test drive” the new technology and working out the bottle necks. They want to destroy the current system for maybe something better in 25 years. Of course the Greens have been taken over by the Reds, so we now know why they want to destroy today and then postponed the future.

Now we understand the Marxism phase 'What Can Be, Unburdened By What Has Been'….

14 posted on 08/24/2024 2:18:55 PM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show host to me.... Sting)
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To: karpov

The EPA (aka the Globalist/Deep State) hate hybrids and ICE vehicles because they lose control.


15 posted on 08/24/2024 2:19:12 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (We used to be a Republic, we are now a Fascist Klepto-Thugocracy.)
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To: SPDSHDW

“Same reason your phone is unlikely to explode even though it’s lithium. Not enough there to cause a reaction.”

I have had a lithium battery catch fire as I was removing it from a small Apple tablet. I assure you that the battery in a phone could cause a fire and/or really severe injury if mechanically damaged or defective. Fortunately, for this to happen with a single cell in a phone, this is very rare (unless the phone is bent or punctured).

The tiny lithium batteries in disposable vapes have “gone off” with pretty spectacular results for their size.


16 posted on 08/24/2024 2:21:51 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie (When small men cast long shadows, it is near the end of the day)
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To: Ronald77

“I would buy a hybrid or any other type of stupid electric cars”

I’m thinking you are missing ‘nt ?


17 posted on 08/24/2024 2:23:13 PM PDT by DAC21
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To: Ronald77
I would buy a hybrid or any other type of stupid electric cars.

Why would you buy one?

18 posted on 08/24/2024 2:24:24 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Three conspiracy theorists walk into the bar . . . . same time . . coincidence? I think not.)
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To: karpov

It is a practical and sensible compromise. Especially if they make it diesel over electric. But they never compromise, and they hate diesels.


19 posted on 08/24/2024 2:27:08 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Openurmind

Oh man, a diesel hybrid. Think of the possibilities.

Never happen, of course.


20 posted on 08/24/2024 2:31:02 PM PDT by OKSooner (The government killed Frank Zappa with an isotope.)
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