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US v Tamori Morgan (federal district court rules full auto weapons covered under 2nd Amendment Bruen decision)
USCourts.gov website ^ | Kansas District Court

Posted on 08/22/2024 11:51:57 AM PDT by PapaBear3625

MEMORANDUM AND ORDER

This matter is before the court on Defendant’s motion to dismiss based on Second Amendment grounds. (Doc. 26.) A response and a reply have been filed (Docs. 28, 29), and the court held a hearing to establish additional facts about the weapons charged. The motion is thus ripe for review. The court finds that the Second Amendment applies to the weapons charged because they are “bearable arms” within the original meaning of the amendment. The court further finds that the government has failed to establish that this nation’s history of gun regulation justifies the application of 18 U.S.C. § 922(o) to Defendant. The court therefore grants the motion to dismiss.

(Excerpt) Read more at ecf.ksd.uscourts.gov ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Kansas
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To: MtnClimber

One of the more amazing pieces of forgotten trivia is that back in the day, a semi auto Colt AR-15 SP1 cost about $150 MORE (about 25% back then) than the Full Auto capable version.

Both were sold side by side on gun store racks.

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41 posted on 08/22/2024 1:38:16 PM PDT by rdcbn1
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To: PROCON

Looks like a huge decision. Let’s see how this moves up the judicial ladder.

Thanks for the ping.


42 posted on 08/22/2024 1:38:53 PM PDT by Obadiah
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To: central_va

I guess I had forgotten that you could get certain parts. I tend to use the heavy M-16 bolts just so they would be compatible in that SHTF case. I thought there was some modification to the lower receiver required as well, to allow the select fire choice. Yes? No?


43 posted on 08/22/2024 1:40:39 PM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: so_real

Yup me too, certain weapons like squad auto m-2.

Your 240 rounds go awfully fast on full auto, unless you are in a movie


44 posted on 08/22/2024 1:46:11 PM PDT by blitz128
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To: Resolute Conservative; MtnClimber
About 25 grand a pop last I checked.

Thats for a "fake" West Hurley Thompson. Originals 50k and up today.

Machinegun Price Guide


45 posted on 08/22/2024 1:48:58 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (Inter arma enim silent leges! - Cicero )
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To: Dead Corpse; Yo-Yo
The entirety of 922 needs to go... Not just subsection (o).

Yep.....Hell, take Chapter 4 of the GCA of 68 out and watch heads explode.

46 posted on 08/22/2024 1:50:33 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (Inter arma enim silent leges! - Cicero )
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To: PapaBear3625

“...keep and bear ARMS” I think I remember it saying. That covers everything from Swiss Army knives to nuclear bombs. Price will limit the possession of more powerful “arms.” Of course Bezos might just buy himself a thermonuclear bomb but then what is he going to do with it?


47 posted on 08/22/2024 1:51:09 PM PDT by arthurus (covfefe fav)
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To: PapaBear3625

Oh, nose! The wild west is coming! Haaaaalp!D


48 posted on 08/22/2024 1:54:18 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David. Child in need of a CGM system. https://gofund.me/6452dbf1. )
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To: DCBryan1

The GCA in it’s entirety needs to go as well.

There are many ways to spell “infringement” that they have tried to weld on to the USC in the last Century.

All of it needs to go.


49 posted on 08/22/2024 2:09:26 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: PapaBear3625
Wow, that is a big deal.

There were Volley Guns or multi-shot, multi-barreled weapons from before Napoleonic war times that fired multiple shots with a single trigger pull, so the BATF folks may have to do some tap dancing.

50 posted on 08/22/2024 2:13:07 PM PDT by Robert357
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To: DCBryan1

The idea of running skeet with an AA-12 puts a smile on my goofy looking face...


51 posted on 08/22/2024 2:16:12 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: PapaBear3625

Okay, but that doesn’t negate the 1986 automatic weapons ban or the 1934 NFA. It just confirms that they are covered by the 2nd Amendment.


52 posted on 08/22/2024 2:51:51 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants ("Gays for Gaza is like Chickens for KFC"- B. Netanyahu )
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To: Yo-Yo
This will get litigated for a decade before any final ruling is issued.

Because the Supreme Court fails to rule what plain language in the 2nd means. Shall make no law seems to not mean that at all.

53 posted on 08/22/2024 2:53:52 PM PDT by itsahoot (Many Republicans are secretly Democrats, no Democrats are secretly Republicans. Dan Bongino.)
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To: so_real

Would apply to smgs That would be my first choice for home defense (if you don’t mind a few extra holes in your walls)


54 posted on 08/22/2024 2:57:09 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy - EVs a solution for which there is no problem)
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To: so_real

Count on it being appealed. But it doesn’t negate the 1986 new machine gun ban or the 1934 NFA. And unless you have $25,000 (at least) laying around for a transferable FA firearm.....


55 posted on 08/22/2024 2:58:05 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants ("Gays for Gaza is like Chickens for KFC"- B. Netanyahu )
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To: central_va

ATF bait.

You own the parts AND possess an AR receiver - you’re toast.


56 posted on 08/22/2024 2:58:18 PM PDT by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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To: central_va

ATF bait.

You own the parts AND possess an AR receiver - you’re toast.


57 posted on 08/22/2024 2:58:18 PM PDT by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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To: Resolute Conservative
One can only hope. I have been lucky enough to shoot one and would buy if made again.

When I went through Basic Training (nearly 70 years ago)we still fired the Thompson, but the $2.95 grease gun worked well enough to replace it generally.

The trouble with full auto is ammo supply, unlike TV shows and movies the guys running full auto don't actually have a couple hundred mags in their back pocket.

Interestingly the Military full auto AR's only fire in burst of three. I read that repeating rifles were rejected by the military for the revolutionary war because they feared the troops would waste all their ammo.

58 posted on 08/22/2024 3:01:59 PM PDT by itsahoot (Many Republicans are secretly Democrats, no Democrats are secretly Republicans. Dan Bongino.)
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To: central_va

If you possess both the AR and the trigger kit, I think BATF can cause you legal problems.


59 posted on 08/22/2024 3:05:55 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Either you will rule. Or you will be ruled. There is no other choice.)
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To: PapaBear3625

The case launching the NFA never made sense. They ruled a sawed off shotgun was not a useful militia weapon. Even though it has a long history throughout our nation’s history for military use.
And the NFA itself basically banned (heavily restricted) machine guns, silencers, short barrel rifles, destructive devices like grenades etc... even though though those are ALL militia weapons.
And then in 68, Dodd imported the 1938 Nazi gun law wholesale, almost verbatim in many passages. This included the famed “sporting purpose” clause. He had been a lawyer ant Nuremburg.

Jews for the Preservation Firearms Ownership sells a book proving it beyond any doubt.

https://store.jpfo.org/products/gun-control-gateway-to-tyranny

Side by side, the 1938 German law, and the 1968 gun law. It’s shocking.


60 posted on 08/22/2024 3:13:35 PM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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