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Unrealized Gain Tax—A Coming Sea Change in FY2025 Budget Proposal(Wealth Tax)
Forbes ^ | 08/21/2024 | Andrew Leahey

Posted on 08/21/2024 3:12:59 AM PDT by Kid Shelleen

In President Joe Biden’s proposal in the Fiscal Year 2025 Budget of the United States Government, and more specifically in the General Explanations of the Administration’s FY 2025 Revenue Proposals, the Biden administration has proposed a slate of bold shifts in tax policy that could redefine high income tax planning and investment strategies.

Among the most striking initiatives in the FY2025 Budget Proposal is a set of proposals taxing unrealized gains—a concept ---SNIP-- . A shift in tax policy towards tapping revenue streams in unrealized gains is almost certainly on the horizon-

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: andrewleahey; comradekamala; kamala; kamalanomics; kamalatruth; kamunism; taxes; theft; unrealizedgaintax; wealthtax
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To: iontheball
On what day is the valuation to be made?

Don't worry. They'll give you the assumed growth curve, and it won't be in your favor.

41 posted on 08/21/2024 5:04:42 AM PDT by voicereason (When a bartender can join Congress and become a millionaire...there’s a problem.)
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To: Nifster

Socialism at work.


42 posted on 08/21/2024 5:06:36 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

“25% tax on unrealized gains”

If the tax rate on unrealized gains is greater than the tax rate on realized gains, then you might as well sell all your stocks and mutual funds. Middle class stock ownership will be a thing of the past. The stock market will fall, as it did in the great depression. What to do with your money after cashing out? Put it under a mattress? Buy gold?

If the Democrats pull back from a 25% tax and go down to 10% tax, the lowest tax rate, stocks will still be depressed, but there might be a more orderly exit from the stock market.

I wonder if the fat cat Democrats are noticing what’s going on. Perhaps they don’t care. With most Americans rendered as poor as Mexicans, day care costs for their children will be less.

So when she would start liquidating our financial assets?


43 posted on 08/21/2024 5:07:13 AM PDT by ChessExpert (Scarborough: "This is the Best Biden ever.")
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To: ChessExpert

Correction to last paragraph:

“So when should we start liquidating our financial assets?”


44 posted on 08/21/2024 5:09:38 AM PDT by ChessExpert (Scarborough: "This is the Best Biden ever.")
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To: Kid Shelleen

Classic example of outright communist RAT insanity.
The big money will be leaving the country, and then that tax will drop down to the hard-working class folks that are trying to save a few bucks to live on down the road.
FWIW, FJB is also the evil prick that proposed and pushed thru the income tax on Social Security benefits when it should have been treated to something similar to a Roth IRA.
The basstids give away billions of our hard-earned tax dollars to foreign entities (a lot of likely being laundered back to their personal accounts) and do NOTHING for the American citizen but tax us more and more and more, except for maybe a few crumbs going to the elderly every once in awhile. It’s eventually gonna become unsustainable.


45 posted on 08/21/2024 5:16:02 AM PDT by lgjhn23 ("On the 8th day, Satan created the progressive liberal to destroy all the good that God created..." )
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To: Gen.Blather

*I found the Strength through Joy campaign posters.*

Interesting. It’s like what the NFL does these days.


46 posted on 08/21/2024 5:18:47 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: Gen.Blather

I wondered about where the buyers will come from.

And if by some miracle the financial system still works, what will we owe in unrealized capital gains the second year? 25%?!!


47 posted on 08/21/2024 5:21:10 AM PDT by AdSimp
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To: dfwgator

I’m ordering myself a vintage tee from their website today.


48 posted on 08/21/2024 5:21:15 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: crusty old prospector

My daughter got a T-Shirt, but she didn’t even know about that band, LOL!


49 posted on 08/21/2024 5:24:08 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Kid Shelleen

“25% tax on unrealized gains”

Is this year to year until its all gone?


50 posted on 08/21/2024 5:27:50 AM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: srmanuel

I believe the Supreme Court ruled sometime ago that realization was required before you could measure income and tax it


51 posted on 08/21/2024 5:31:29 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (What does the Deep State have on Dims and RINOs? Demand release of all tax returns)
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To: iontheball

No problem because what do you think those 87000 IRS agents are for.


52 posted on 08/21/2024 5:35:17 AM PDT by Mouton (A 150MT hit may not solve our problems now but is a good start. )
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53 posted on 08/21/2024 5:38:20 AM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: Red Badger

A limit of $3,000 per year.......


54 posted on 08/21/2024 5:40:14 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Kid Shelleen

Maybe an Article V Convention of States is our only hope. They could enact an Amendment to the Constitution to prohibit a federal wealth tax. While, I’m hoping, perhaps they could set the number of Supreme Court Justices to nine.


55 posted on 08/21/2024 5:41:21 AM PDT by ChessExpert (Scarborough: "This is the Best Biden ever.")
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To: Kid Shelleen

Best to just stop paying taxes.


56 posted on 08/21/2024 5:42:39 AM PDT by dpetty121263
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To: A_Former_Democrat
>> I believe the Supreme Court ruled sometime ago that realization was required before you could measure income and tax it <<

You are right but how much longer can we trust the supreme court?






57 posted on 08/21/2024 5:43:27 AM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: Paladin2

If my gains are 10-15k then that’s 100% taxable.

But, if my losses are 10-15k then that’s out the window.

Got it.

All those Wall Street and Hollywood types are gonna be pissed that they ever supported her................


58 posted on 08/21/2024 5:45:08 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: AdSimp

“I wondered about where the buyers will come from.”

Some reasons the American stock market is going well...

The rest of the world is doing very poorly. Captial flight from Russia, Ukraine, China, Turkey and other nations is huge. Where does all that money go? Into hard assets like American land, buildings and things in the nature of sports teams, golf clubs, office buildings, etc. But by far the easiest thing to invest in is the American stock market.

As for the rest of the world, at the link you’ll find a list of key interest rates across the world. The countries with rates lower than the US are experiencing some form of pressure and low rates are an attempt to counter that pressure. It isn’t working, for various reasons in different countries. So, you have money in those economies, and its value isn’t improving. What do you do? You invest in the American stock market. Interest rates in the US are nine percent. The countries with higher interest rates are fighting inflation and none of them are being successful because that inflation is systemic due to policies or other issues. What do you do with your cash in those countries. Yep, you invest in the American market. A Mexican once said to me, “America gets the sniffles and Mexico gets the flu.” I think on a larger scale The World gets Sick and America Gets Well. It sucks to be poor in some far part of the world, but it’s great to be an American.

https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/interest-rate


59 posted on 08/21/2024 5:47:07 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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To: Kid Shelleen

The billionaires will simply move away from the US and shift their assets to places that the US can’t reach. If there is a pile of money out there, you can bet your last buck that the DemocRats want it.


60 posted on 08/21/2024 5:56:47 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants ("Gays for Gaza is like Chickens for KFC"- B. Netanyahu )
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