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Where have all the fiscal conservatives gone?

Promising to leave Obamacare, Medicare, and Social Security intact all while lowering inflation. What is largely driving inflation is the government spending/printing money. The interest payments on the federal debt now exceeds the defense budget .


1 posted on 08/16/2024 3:18:34 PM PDT by thegagline
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To: thegagline

You’re right! It’s obvious we MUST vote for Skamala! She’ll fix all of our problems. 🤣


2 posted on 08/16/2024 3:30:30 PM PDT by Prince of Space (Trump 2024! )
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Medicare Part B

$100 doctor bill

$20 patient co-pay

$20 covered by Part B premiums

$60 paid via taxation

doctor pays ~40% marginal 1040 rate
staffers pay ~27% marginal rate

~$33 paid via doctor office earned income taxation

~$27 paid by outside party taxation, including that of corporations


4 posted on 08/16/2024 3:34:12 PM PDT by Brian Griffin ("The fundamental problem is that anyone can claim asylum with zero proof" - Elon Musk)
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To: thegagline

Both sides are promising to magically reduce inflation while increasing spending. Who would have thought that by 2024 Bill Clinton would be too conservative not only for the Democratic Party but the Republican as well.


5 posted on 08/16/2024 3:38:48 PM PDT by GrootheWanderer
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To: thegagline

“Actual Medicaid enrollment in 2021 for people below the age of 65 was 71.6 million people.”

“according to CBO’s latest estimates, the cost of the ACA will be $204 billion in 2022: $116 billion from the Medicaid expansion, $78 billion from the [premium tax credits] PTCs, and $10 billion on its Basic Health Program, an alternative to the PTCs for lower-income enrollees in the states of New York and Minnesota.”

“Only 4.5 million people who are lawfully present in the United States lack health insurance and are not eligible for Medicaid, PTCs to buy an exchange plan, or employer-sponsored insurance. This is only 1.7 percent of the American under-65 population and indicates that most people without health insurance have made a voluntary decision to be uninsured.”

https://www.healthaffairs.org/content/forefront/explosion-medicaid-and-aca-spending-lessons-cbo-jct-health-subsidies-report


6 posted on 08/16/2024 3:59:20 PM PDT by Brian Griffin ("The fundamental problem is that anyone can claim asylum with zero proof" - Elon Musk)
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RE: Where have all the fiscal conservatives gone?

Long time passing.
Gone to be budget busting soldiers every one.💸💸💸💸💸💸💸
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?📻🎶🎶🎸🎸


7 posted on 08/16/2024 4:03:23 PM PDT by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.)
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To: thegagline
Where have all the fiscal conservatives gone?

Promising to leave Obamacare, Medicare, and Social Security intact all while lowering inflation. What is largely driving inflation is the government spending/printing money. The interest payments on the federal debt now exceeds the defense budget .


You are either an honorable person or not!

If you are honorable, you honor your promises. Social Security is a promise to Americans that if they pay in, they will be able to take out when they retire.

Instead of pretending it is a conservative thing to cut down the size of Social Security, the real conservative thing is figure out how to better manage Social Security so that those taking out get more.

One thing that needs to be done is cut deport Illegal Aliens and ensure that no fed monies go to them at all. You will open up lots of cash by doing that.

BTW, go away Troll!

You are a charter member of the "I wish it was somebody else but Trump" crowd and anyone checking your posting history will put 1 + 1 together and figure this out.
9 posted on 08/16/2024 4:09:47 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Trump has all the right enemies, DeSantis has all the wrong friends.)
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To: thegagline

I’m still waiting for Trump’s “beautiful” plan to replace Obamacare.


10 posted on 08/16/2024 4:13:11 PM PDT by Bob Wills is still the king (Just a Texas Playboy at heart!)
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To: thegagline

If the FDA was abolished, all new drugs for the US market would have to be approved by say Health Canada or the EU equivalent of the FDA.

The Canadian/EU drugs would simply be imported into the US and would sell for just marginally more than in Canada or the EU.


13 posted on 08/16/2024 4:17:38 PM PDT by Brian Griffin ("The fundamental problem is that anyone can claim asylum with zero proof" - Elon Musk)
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Some medical proposals from my profile page:

DRUG APPROVAL

Drugs approved by the European Union/Health Canada would be deemed eligible for import, sale and use in the USA six/eighteen months after such approval unless Congress acts otherwise.

NEW DRUG PLANS

Federal PPACA exchanges would offer Interstate Class Drug Plans,
exempt from state control, that to be fully federally subsidy eligible must cover at least:
1. 80% of all recombinant drugs by key active entity
(or 100% less the percentages held by the top three domestic rights holders by percentage),
2. 80% of all FDA breakthrough drugs by key active entity
(or 100% less the percentages held by the top three domestic rights holders by percentage),
3. 80% of all drugs covered by a key active entity patent
(or 100% less the percentages held by the top three domestic rights holders by percentage),
4. 90% of all WHO “essential” drugs

Any percentage shortfalls would result in twice the percentage reduction in the federal subsidy amount and must have the word ‘Deficient’ in the drug plan name to be at all federal subsidy eligible.

This system would allow for genuine negotiation between drug plans and drug companies. Drug plans would have an incentive to try to buy drugs from drug companies and drug companies would have an incentive to make deals to make sales.

All drugs would be supplied at on an all-the doctors prescribe basis. The co-pays would be roughly equal to mere manufacturing cost.

The baseline federal drug subsidy would be the average policy holder age (as of the beginning of the policy period) divided by 3 taken as a percent of PPACA baseline subsidy amount for the PPACA household.

EXAMPLE A: For a PPACA household with a 34-year-old, a 36-year-old, and a two-year-old, the baseline federal drug subsidy would be 8% ((34+36+2)/(3*3))% of the PPACA household’s baseline subsidy amount.

EXAMPLE B: For a single PPACA policy of age 60, the baseline federal drug subsidy would be 20% (60/3)% of the PPACA household’s baseline subsidy amount.

A&B Medical Service Plans

A&B Medical Service Plans would have the same medical service coverage as Medicare Parts A & B. They would not have built-in drug coverage that Medicare Part B currently has. They would be PPACA subsidy eligible up to the PPACA baseline subsidy amount for the PPACA household less the household’s federal drug subsidy.

A&B Medical Service Plan coverage providers would have to continue to offer PPACA coverage plans unless the provider’s PPACA plan(s) would have less than 10,000 subscribers in total.

A&B Medical Service Plans would have to keep their funds in federally regulated financial institutions.


22 posted on 08/16/2024 4:46:25 PM PDT by Brian Griffin ("The fundamental problem is that anyone can claim asylum with zero proof" - Elon Musk)
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LOL, I have one of those a coin company sent me for free.

The money was so worthless it wasn't even worth using as toilet paper:

BD23-CB24-697-C-4-DB9-8-D2-C-947515478168-4-5005-c

26 posted on 08/16/2024 4:51:00 PM PDT by Bon of Babble (You Say You Want a Revolution?)
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I wish someone would vow to protect our rights like a junkyard dog.


31 posted on 08/16/2024 6:00:11 PM PDT by Thorium90
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.... All the more reason to write in Reagan or vote for Kennedy to save America ..... Yup .... Apparenty Trump is the Evil one ..... So vote accordingly ....

..... Sayeth the Almighty Democrat Communist New World Order Consortium ......

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32 posted on 08/16/2024 7:00:43 PM PDT by R_Kangel ("A nation of sheep will beget a nation ruled by wolves")
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America is fiscally and morally bankrupt. The end approaches rapidly.


34 posted on 08/16/2024 7:57:35 PM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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Thomas Sowell said it best when idiots say, “what will you replace Obamacare with?”

To which he replied, “that’s like asking a doctor with what will he replace a cancerous tumor cut out of your body. You don’t replace a tumor with anything. You get rid of it.”


35 posted on 08/16/2024 8:06:53 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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