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Fact Check: The Controversy Over Tim Walz's Claim To Have Visited Bagram Airfield 'in Iraq' Explained
Snopes ^ | Aug 12, 2024 | Alex Kasprak

Posted on 08/13/2024 6:05:06 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?

Claim:

Tim Walz claimed to have traveled to Bagram Airfield as a service member and also incorrectly stated that Bagram was in Iraq, not Afghanistan.

Rating:

False

Tim Walz traveled to Bagram Airfield as a U.S. congressman. The claim that Walz implied that such trips were part of his service in the National Guard, or that he incorrectly stated that Bagram was in Iraq, stem from a written version of his remarks at a 9/11 memorial service that differ from the remarks he actually gave.

In the wake of renewed interest in how Democratic vice presidential nominee Tim Walz has described his service in the National Guard, right-leaning accounts on X claimed to have caught Walz in a case of stolen valor: falsely claiming to have seen combat. The evidence? A video of Walz "claiming he was on the tarmac in Bagram":......

In the years that happened after [9/11], I had the privilege of serving in this state's National Guard. And when I left, I had a 2-year-old. When I came home, I had a 3-year-old.

But as I listened to [Jill Stephenson and Mariah Jacobsen, gold star mothers who spoke before Walz] … the guilt. … I came home and my daughter went on. And when you're 2 and 3, she knew no difference. That's not true for some. They can't do that.

And over the preceding [sic] years of watching us and as our nation changed, and as our political systems became more difficult for all of us to understand, I stood one night in the dark of night on the tarmac at Bagram and watched a military ramp ceremony. And if you've seen it, which these folks many have, unfortunately, you don't leave the same.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: alexkasprak; walz; walzbagram; walzfactcheck
I wondered if he really said that. Looks like a typical Dem attack by changing the context. We don't need to make things up, just use their true quotes.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4257860/posts?page=2#2

1 posted on 08/13/2024 6:05:06 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Even if absolutely true, he still lied about his service on multiple other occasions. Doing it 5 times and saying hey one time I was taken. out of context doesnt really change anything


2 posted on 08/13/2024 6:08:10 AM PDT by 1malumprohibitum (I’m )
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

“Fake, but accurate.”


3 posted on 08/13/2024 6:09:11 AM PDT by nesnah (Infringe - act so as to limit or undermine [something]; encroach on)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

“Bagram was in Iraq, stem from a written version of his remarks at a 9/11 memorial service that differ from the remarks he actually gave. “ This sounds like Josh Steiner lying to his diary.


4 posted on 08/13/2024 6:18:07 AM PDT by sopo
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To: where's_the_Outrage?; All

“Fact Checkers” are Democrat rapid response teams that started in 2007/2008 to defend Obama against Rev. Wright “smears”. The genius of it is that most people think that fact checkers are just checking the facts which is completely false.


5 posted on 08/13/2024 6:38:34 AM PDT by wiseprince (Me)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

I heard he’s up for a purple heart due to these attacks and possibly a MOH.


6 posted on 08/13/2024 6:41:09 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?; All

Judge for yourselves:
More proof of “Tampon Tim” claiming something that never happened:

In Gov. Walz’ entry into the pamphlet “Minnesota In The Global War On Terrorism” he stated this obvious lie:

And I think of all those emotions I went through when our country was attacked: 374 Minnesota in the Global War on Terrorism fear, anger, confusion, hope, pride, a desire for revenge, guilt. As for me, I was sitting in room 114 at Mankato West High School right before school started. And in a typical high school, there was the noise in the halls, and it was a new school year. But then kids started coming in and sitting in classrooms and the TV was on, and those events started to unfold, and that room got fuller and quieter and there were tears and fear and confusion.

In the years after that classroom, I had the privilege of serving in this state’s national guard. I stood one night in the dark of night on the tarmac at Bagram Air Base in Iraq and watched a military ramp ceremony–a soldier’s body being loaded onto a plane to be returned home. And if you’ve seen it, you don’t leave the same. It makes you wonder, what are we doing? What are we trying to get to? And then watching as all of you have been, the confusing last few weeks with the Taliban takeover of Afghanistan.


7 posted on 08/13/2024 6:47:19 AM PDT by mozarky2 (Ya never stand so tall as when ya stoop to stomp a statist...)
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Nasty man ..

Walz's storm troopers shot paint rounds at residents standing on their porch during COVID
8 posted on 08/13/2024 6:51:11 AM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Snopes is technically right in their assessment of Walz’s speech, but they nonetheless deceive their readers in the same way Walz deceived his listeners during his speech. He intentionally leaves out details of his various journeys so that the audience will conflate his year with his NG service in Italy during the war with a deployment in either Iraq or Afghanistan. He even goes as far as to imply that he was a lucky one who came home form his overseas NG service when others didn’t, which leave the audience assuming that he survived his tour of duty solely due to luck rather than being “deployed” to Italy where he faced absolutely no danger. This guy is very slippery.


9 posted on 08/13/2024 7:05:07 AM PDT by Pres Raygun (Repent America)
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To: mozarky2
I have a link to that video and watched it. Another post somewhere said he attended this event as a member of congress years later. Yes, he did witness it however it was NOT because he was deployed.

This is a premier example of how the left uses half truths and lying by omission to convey a certain point or dialog. Such slimy people.

10 posted on 08/13/2024 7:07:05 AM PDT by New Perspective (As Leonard Cohen said once in an interview, “You won’t like what comes after America”)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

He can’t tell you where he was. Seal teams move in total secrecy.


11 posted on 08/13/2024 7:48:55 AM PDT by lurk (u)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

While stationed in Italy, he asked his mom to send him another set of false teeth, but there was a mix up and the package was sent to Afghan. When the mistake was discovered the package was sent on to Italy.

He proudly wears those same false teeth today. So its true he ( or part of him ) did visit Afghan.


12 posted on 08/13/2024 8:00:17 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: New Perspective

Sure puts the lie to that fact-checker!


13 posted on 08/13/2024 9:05:34 AM PDT by mozarky2 (Ya never stand so tall as when ya stoop to stomp a statist...)
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To: Pres Raygun

Snake.

Biden


14 posted on 08/13/2024 9:11:52 AM PDT by Varsity Flight ( "War by 🙏 the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18. Nazarite warriors. 10.5.6.5 These Days)
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To: mozarky2

It very much does, fact checkers = Opinion Twists


15 posted on 08/13/2024 9:20:53 AM PDT by New Perspective (As Leonard Cohen said once in an interview, “You won’t like what comes after America”)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

It’s the old trick of smacking down something particular that is related to the claim, but not specifically accurate—and then proclaiming it false and letting people think any related claim is false.


16 posted on 08/13/2024 9:24:36 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Balad air base is in Iraq. Space-A used to fly out of Balad for GE/US-bound C-17 flights.


17 posted on 08/13/2024 9:33:49 AM PDT by Justa (Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people....)
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To: 9YearLurker

Yup—that was the “pizza” trick.

The mass media took the (imho true) claim that Podesta’s emails used a pizza code to discuss child trafficking and morphed it into a false claim that a specific pizza parlor had children hidden in the basement.

Then a kook even stormed into the pizza parlor looking for the kids.

Lol.


18 posted on 08/13/2024 9:37:00 AM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: cgbg

Perfect example.


19 posted on 08/13/2024 9:53:50 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

The fact check begs the question of where the written version of the speech originated and how did it come to be included in the publication and if you can think of any source other than Walz or his office be my guest and I have a bridge to sell you. Snopes loves “context” and uses it to explain away their own lying eyes. So here is the truth Walz or his office put out a copy of his speech which claimed Bagram was in Iraq and Walz was there on a National Guard deployment to gussy up his bona fides and mislead the public. In other words he is a lying sack of horse manure. And so is Snopes.


20 posted on 08/13/2024 12:02:13 PM PDT by your other brother
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