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The US Navy says it can't stop the Houthi attacks on shipping with force alone
Business Insider via Yahoo ^ | August 9th. 2024 | Jake Epstein

Posted on 08/09/2024 8:34:41 PM PDT by Mariner

The US Navy's counter-Houthi mission will not be enough on its own to stop the Iran-backed rebels from attacking vulnerable merchant ships, the admiral overseeing operations in the Middle East said this week.

Vice Adm. George Wikoff, the commander of US Naval Forces Central Command, said that it will take more than force and firepower to deal with the Houthis. Rather, Washington and its allies must come up with an alternative way to apply pressure on the group.

"The solution is not going to come at the end of a weapon system," Wikoff said Wednesday at an event hosted by the Center for Strategic and International Studies think tank. "It's going to be the international community."

For over eight months, US forces have been working to defend key shipping lanes in the Red Sea and Gulf of Aden from relentless Houthi attacks. The rebels have been using one-way attack drones, naval drones, and anti-ship missiles to threaten commercial vessels and American warships deployed in the region.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: commerce; houthis; navy; redsea; shipping
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To: Mariner

If using force doesn’t work, you probably haven’t used enough.


41 posted on 08/09/2024 10:37:05 PM PDT by Nachoman (Proudly oppressing people of color since 1957.)
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To: whitney69

“They draw from countries all over the muslum world...”
^

I see what you did there.


42 posted on 08/09/2024 10:56:56 PM PDT by Does so ( 🇺🇦......Say it fast...Kamala D. Harris = KALAMITY Harris...)
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To: Mariner; All

Curtis LeMay knew how to get the job done… firebomb the source.


43 posted on 08/09/2024 10:59:23 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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To: Nervous Tick

44 posted on 08/09/2024 11:14:21 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Mariner

This military, political, and fortitude incompetence is already understood by our nation’s external and internal enemies...


45 posted on 08/10/2024 12:07:12 AM PDT by SuperLuminal ( Where is Samuel Adams when we so desperately need him)
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To: Mariner; All

US says it destroyed Iran-backed Houthi missile launcher, with a naval drone in Yemen

US Central Command (CENTCOM) says its forces destroyed an Iranian-backed Houthi missile launcher and an uncrewed surface vessel in Houthi-controlled areas of Yemen in the previous 24 hours.

The forces also destroyed two Houthi uncrewed aerial vehicles over the Red Sea, CENTCOM says in a post on X.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/us-says-it-destroyed-iran-backed-houthi-missile-launcher-naval-drone-in-yemen/


46 posted on 08/10/2024 12:32:18 AM PDT by Texan4Life
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To: Does so

““They draw from countries all over the muslum world...”
It isn’t just the
muslims world.

Countries currently designated as state sponsors of terrorism under U.S. law are Cuba, Iran, North Korea and Syria. State sponsors of terrorism are defined as having repeatedly provided support for acts of international terrorism.

There are training camps sponsored by ISIL, the ANF, and Hamas in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Palestine, Syria and Somalia. We know of legal training camps in the US located at Bly, Oregon, Amalia, New Mexico, upper state New York, and two in Washington state. These encampments provide recruits with weapons training, protocol training, interaction with skilled veterans, and a secure geographic location for operations. Recruits are regularly indoctrinated in the goals and beliefs of the organization. Organizational leaders attempt to isolate recruits from their outside social connections and force them to establish a new identity.[citation needed] This allows the organization to become the “family” of the recruit and generate loyalty to the organization’s goals.

There’s nothing illegal about the camps that get them closed unless the FBI can get proof of their support. We know they are, but most times can’t prove it.

And financing is one of the major workings. I live in Washington state. The islamic center of Seattle was established by the muslim brotherhood and working with the islamic center in Tacoma fund smillions of dollas to Al Qaeda yearly.

A good article on this is here:

https://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/05/world/threats-responses-financing-terror-millions-raised-for-qaeda-brooklyn-us-says.html

wy69


47 posted on 08/10/2024 2:19:31 AM PDT by whitney69
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To: Zhang Fei

“The limiting factor when dealing with actors like the Houthis is not their willingness to take casualties, it’s our willingness (or lack thereof) to inflict them.”

Quotable. Nicely worded.


48 posted on 08/10/2024 2:22:54 AM PDT by Samurai_Jack (This is not about hypocrisy, this is about hierarchy!)
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To: Mariner
"The solution is not going to come at the end of a weapon system," Wikoff said Wednesday at an event hosted by the Center for Strategic and International Studies think tank. "It's going to be the international community."

Then we are in big trouble, Surely we have the firepower to annihilate a group like the Houthis. I think what is lacking is the political will to do so, and to take the criticism for collateral damage. And perhaps we need another admiral.

49 posted on 08/10/2024 3:09:35 AM PDT by Rummyfan ( In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man.)
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To: technically right
Oh good Lord. Is there any way to resurrect admiral Bill Halsey.

I was thinking the same thing.

50 posted on 08/10/2024 3:10:48 AM PDT by Rummyfan ( In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man.)
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To: lee martell

If nothing else, the current American “rules of war” don’t give the U.S. any legal authority to protect foreign shipping interests in international waters.


51 posted on 08/10/2024 3:33:04 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (“Ain't it funny how the night moves … when you just don't seem to have as much to lose.”)
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To: Mariner

I bet the navy can.
Have they tried pronouns yet?


52 posted on 08/10/2024 4:35:09 AM PDT by farmguy ( )
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To: Mariner
Yeah, I thought that that was why you had a navy in the first place.
Maybe they just want to do a little work on “root causes” or pronouns or something like that first.
53 posted on 08/10/2024 4:49:30 AM PDT by skimbell
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To: Zhang Fei

The way to stop the Houthi riff raff is not action in Yemen but rather aggressive action in Iran.

President Trump says he can end it. He will not use kinetic weapons but rather the Abraham Accords alliance of the regional powers coupled with severe economic sanctions on the Iranian economy.

Trump effectively ended the old game and began a totally new game.

The current kinetic action in Israel, Syria and Lebanon are all the attempt by Iran to destroy Trump’s Abraham Accord alliance

The Admiral is restating the Trump policy that wrecked the status quo and the game the world diplomats had been playing for decades.

The rapidly growing relations between Israel and Saudi Arabia were intolerable to Iran. The Hamas and Hezbollah attacks are the direct action of Iran to stop the Saudi/Israel coming together.

The real problem is the Black President Barack Obama. Such a failure of the black President’s pro Iran legacy is absolute4ly intolerable.


54 posted on 08/10/2024 4:54:05 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Where is ZORRO when California so desperately needs him?)
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To: Mariner

The Obama-Biden-Holder-Harris regime speaking. The same liars who say walls don’t stop invaders. The way is there but the will isn’t with these traitorous seditious clowns in
charge.


55 posted on 08/10/2024 4:58:17 AM PDT by ZULU (Remember: ABBEY GATE, Kate Steinle, Joscelyn Nungary, Rachel Morin and Laken Riley. )
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To: Mariner

Uh, Wiki, you don’t make policy or political statements. You are in the military. You carry out policy.

This makes you a political operative just like that Benedict Arnold traitor ‘I’ll call my brothers in the Communist Chinese Party if America defends itself” General Milley, retired.


56 posted on 08/10/2024 4:59:59 AM PDT by Eastern Shore Virginian (Yea, I sometimes gild the lily.)
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To: Does so

I was referencing your use of the misspelled word, “muSLUM”.


57 posted on 08/10/2024 5:00:32 AM PDT by Does so ( 🇺🇦......Say it fast...Kamala D. Harris = KALAMITY Harris...)
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To: Zhang Fei

Nailed it.


58 posted on 08/10/2024 5:11:04 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Mariner

Hi.

I know Adm Jackoff was alive when president Reagan sunk Persia’s ENTIRE NAVY in 1983.

We are doomed.

5.56mm


59 posted on 08/10/2024 5:27:31 AM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho have got to go. )
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To: Mariner

The formerly mighty US Navy has apparently lost many of the capabilities they formerly have. For sname...


60 posted on 08/10/2024 5:32:53 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (NRA Life Member)
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