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Who is Responsible for Verifying Presidential Eligibility?
The Post & Email Newspaper ^ | 26 Jul 2024 | Sharon Rondeau

Posted on 07/26/2024 7:59:03 PM PDT by CDR Kerchner

(Jul. 26, 2024) — As posted Tuesday by the “X” account @Kancel Kamala, on August 20, 2020, then-Alabama Democratic Party Chairman Christopher John England sent a “Certification” to then-Alabama Secretary of State John H. Merrill naming the party’s 2020 nominees for President and Vice President, respectively, as “Joseph R. Biden” and “Kamala D. Harris.”

The 18-page set of documents remains available at the Alabama Secretary of State’s website.

As part of the “certification” process, each nominee provided a signed and notarized “Consent to Nomination of the Democratic Party” and “affirmed” he or she was constitutionally qualified for the position sought on November 3, 2020 (pp. 8 and 9 below).

(Excerpt) Read more at thepostemail.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 226; certification; foreigninfluences; kamalaharris; kamalatruth; naturalborncitizen; nbckooks; nbctroll; presidenteligibility
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To: palmer

I have no idea what “logs” you are talking about. This is a public forum and what you do here is public information by your posting comments here. Time for you to stop the insinuations of nefarious doings, veiled threats, and attempts at intimidation.

Instead, it’s time to get back to the subject of this thread, the article I shared, “Who is Responsible for Verifying Presidential Eligibility?”: https://www.thepostemail.com/2024/07/26/who-is-responsible-for-verifying-presidential-eligibility/

CDR Kerchner (Retired)
http://www.ProtectOurLiberty.org/


161 posted on 07/27/2024 2:02:35 PM PDT by CDR Kerchner ( retired military officer, natural law, Vattel, presidential, eligibility, natural born Citizen )
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To: batazoid

“We cannot allow her”

I do not know what that means.

I do not want to know what that means.


162 posted on 07/27/2024 2:03:59 PM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: CDR Kerchner
Instead, it’s time to get back to the subject of this thread, the article I shared, “Who is Responsible for Verifying Presidential Eligibility?”:

In theory? Everybody.

In fact? Nobody.

Unfortunate, but the defacto reality we face.

163 posted on 07/27/2024 2:05:35 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Responsibility2nd

To understand the NBC Birthers, it helps to look at Sovereign Citizens, you know, the folks who tell people that they do not have to have driver’s licenses, tags or insurance. Often, they have binders of misquoted case law and other “legal” material to show the cops, or the courts.

My theory is, that it is those 20 minutes or so they interact with the cops, before their window gets busted, and they get dragged out of the car and arrested - those minutes are what they live for, and what the whole thing is all about.

For those few minutes, they get all the attention of numerous cops, and they can pretend that they are legal experts. The fact that their car gets towed, and that they run up a lot of expenses - that is just like paying a pro to spank them, or engage in whatever fantasy excites them.

That is why they rinse and repeat. I think the same thing is true for the NBC Birthers. For a few minutes they get attention, and they can copy and paste whatever quasi-legal garbage they have, and the fact that they lose in court, and that people think they are crazy, that is just part of the cost.

Here is a video - watch this, and tell me this person is not immensely enjoying the scenario. His screams at the end are hilarious!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STsYGIsDWJg&t=295s

This is the same kind of person who is an NBC Birther. Same twisted mindset.


164 posted on 07/27/2024 2:20:12 PM PDT by Penelope Dreadful (And there is Pansies, that's for Thoughts. +Sodomy & Abortion are NOT cornerstones of Civilization! )
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To: Penelope Dreadful

Another fogbow infiltration.


165 posted on 07/27/2024 2:22:31 PM PDT by nesnah (Infringe - act so as to limit or undermine [something]; encroach on)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Yes, I agree that we are now in a mess. The protections set up originally in the Constitution by the founders and framers have been abrogated away, first slowly then very quickly, by the major political parties enacting laws at the state level to hobble the Electoral College. Also the weakening of states rights over time. And the U.S. Supreme Court which could straighten out this constitutional eligibility mess are a bunch of cowards and are evading the issue as to who is a “natural born Citizen” in regards to eligibility to be the President and Commander in Chief, which is a case of first impression to them for that term as it applied to the election of a President, and they should have taken up in the 2008 election cycle, but instead of doing their constitutional duty to interpret the constitution per what Chief Justice Marshal once said https://www.scribd.com/document/21219344/Chief-Justice-John-Marshall-Quote-20091019-Issue-Wash-Times-National-Weekly-pg-15 , they instead evaded the issue as Chief Justice Thomas so clearly stated: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu6OiTiua08


166 posted on 07/27/2024 2:26:38 PM PDT by CDR Kerchner ( retired military officer, natural law, Vattel, presidential, eligibility, natural born Citizen )
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To: Penelope Dreadful
To understand the NBC Birthers, it helps to look at Sovereign Citizens,

And here she is again, dragging out that same old straw man.

The act wasn't funny the first go around.

167 posted on 07/27/2024 2:32:39 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: CDR Kerchner
...they instead evaded the issue as Chief Justice Thomas so clearly stated...

That's if they even know what is correct. Given how widespread in the legal community is the "Common law" theory of citizenship, I'm not sure any of the justices would get it right.

And of course, they are too afraid to even look at it officially.

168 posted on 07/27/2024 2:35:33 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: CDR Kerchner
I did not intimidate you or anyone else. Your attack on my questioning is unwarranted. If you don't know how potential tracking works, you need to be curious, not defensive.

While this is a public forum, some people post anonymously. Their HTTP header information is not public information, it's private to JimRob's server and private to any server hosting images. There is an expectation of privacy of IP addresses, browser fingerprints, etc.

169 posted on 07/27/2024 2:40:39 PM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: DiogenesLamp

In the John Roberts led court, you are probably correct.

Some say that Obama had some dirt on Roberts. And like, so many things going on down there in that national sewer of Washington DC, the major media is in on it and enabling it, and we’ll probably never know.


170 posted on 07/27/2024 2:44:54 PM PDT by CDR Kerchner ( retired military officer, natural law, Vattel, presidential, eligibility, natural born Citizen )
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To: palmer

You started questioning me with demanding yes or no questions about my domain servers. And interestingly, you seem to be a lot more informed about tracking and exposing people’s true identity online than I am. Are you engaging in “projection” of things you have done onto others? It’s like the analogy “all crooks think everyone is a crook” to justify what they are doing. Just an analogy of course. Given your expertise in tracking people online, maybe other people here should be more worried about you and some of the OBOTS here than me. Are you an OBOT?

If you want to see some more political orientated images on my servers, I have a nice collection of them here: http://www.kerchner.com/protectourliberty/archives.htm

If you are so worried about someone tracking down your real identity, then like someone else said, use a VPN. But, I’m certainly not interested in tracking you down. As you see, I comment using my real name. I’m not hiding from anyone.

Like I said, let’s get back on topic and stop with the insinuations that you made that I might be tracking people and selling data. I do no such thing. But what I’ve seen in life is that people who accuse others of doing something nefarious are in many cases the very one engaging in the nefarious activity. Saul Alinsky in his book “Rules for Radicals” even suggested use of that tactic.

So Mr. WhoEverYouReallyAre ????, and I don’t care who you really are, please get back to commenting about the article I shared about the eligibility issue with Harris: https://www.thepostemail.com/2024/07/26/who-is-responsible-for-verifying-presidential-eligibility/


171 posted on 07/27/2024 3:00:30 PM PDT by CDR Kerchner ( retired military officer, natural law, Vattel, presidential, eligibility, natural born Citizen )
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To: research99

Kamala has such a bad record, she can be attacked like a punching bag by just stating facts. SCOTUS will rule he eligible.


172 posted on 07/27/2024 3:23:26 PM PDT by Bobbyvotes (I will be voting for Trump/whoever he picks VP in November. If he loses in 2024, country is toast.)
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To: batazoid

Huh? Where did you read that?
IMHO anyone born and raised in USA to legal parents is natural born citizen. All the powers that be have the same conclusion, including SCOTUS.


173 posted on 07/27/2024 3:26:33 PM PDT by Bobbyvotes (I will be voting for Trump/whoever he picks VP in November. If he loses in 2024, country is toast.)
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To: Bobbyvotes
"IMHO anyone born and raised in USA to legal parents is natural born citizen."

Yes, legal parents.

Kamala's birth in the US violated the terms of her parent's US presence, as they were granted entry for the purpose of study (not reproduction).

174 posted on 07/27/2024 3:46:12 PM PDT by research99
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To: DiogenesLamp
I just hope and pray that the libtards are not successful in their cheating this time round.

We know they will try.....

175 posted on 07/27/2024 3:59:22 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (Pray for President Trump)
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To: GenXPolymath; Responsibility2nd
No Supreme Court decision has ever adjudicated the status of illegal aliens with respect to birthright citizenship, much less their status with respect to qualifying as Natural Born Citizens. At best, there is dicta in the decision of Plyler v. Doe, and that's it.

Ed Meese and John Eastman wrote this Amicus Curiae brief in the case of Hamdi back in 2004: Brief of Amicus Curiae. The court made no determination w.r.t citizenship in this case and the issue remains. Barack Hussein Obama (aka "Barry Soetoro" by adoption) at least had one certifiable parent who was a US citizen and so could be naturalized by an ordinary process even had he been proven to have been born outside the US. This is not the case for either Hamdi or Harris. So it's not just "mental masturbation" to bring it up. And the Supreme Court has not in fact ruled on it in any way.

Any reasonable reading of the 14th would conclude that not only is she not a "natural born citizen" but is not in fact a citizen at all. She would have either Jamaican nationality from her father (Jamaica became independent of Britain in 1962) or Indian from her mother.

The fact that a political coward like John Roberts won't touch it merely reinforces that description of him. And the Congress has had many attempts to clarify the 14th with respect to citizenship of the children of illegal aliens, all of which were tabled. So no vote has ever been conducted that would settle the issue.

Snark all you want, but the issue is far from settled.

176 posted on 07/27/2024 4:11:24 PM PDT by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: CDR Kerchner

US Courts recognize only 2 types or classes of citizens.

ZIMMER et al. v. ACHESON, Secretary of State 10 Cir., 191 F.2d 209

There are only two classes of citizens of the United States, native-born citizens and naturalized citizens; and a citizen who did not acquire that status by birth in the United States is a naturalized citizen.”

Johansen v. Staten Island Shipbuilding Co. 272 N.Y. 140 (N.Y. 1936)
5 N.E.2d 68

“There are two classes of citizens, native born citizens and naturalized citizens.”

Schaufus v. Attorney General of United States 45 F. Supp. 61 (D. Md. 1942)

“There are only two types of citizens: those who are native born and those who are naturalized.”


177 posted on 07/27/2024 5:38:23 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: CDR Kerchner
I switched to VPN FWIW. I have no particular history of posting images that could be used for tracking, so no, I am not projecting. Just asking questions.

Are you an OBOT?

Is that someone who doesn't buy Kenyan or Canadian birth solely because I secretly like Obama? The answer to that is also no.

The topic of NBC was interesting back in Obama's day but required off-shore birth to a non-US father disqualifying the citizen mother. Kind of rickety structure on which to hang disqualification. That's why I figured it was simply a psyop to excise people from the media. It didn't stop Trump of course and there's a lesson in courage there.

But now applied to Kamala it's a little different. Neither parent was a citizen so she's an anchor baby. Did the Framers want to forbid an anchor baby president? Probably. But the USSC has "forgotten" that interpretatio now. Modern rulings now state

As dis- cussed above, that principle, that “every person born within the dominions and allegiance of the United States . . . is a natural born citizen,” governed Ameri- can jurisprudence from the Founding through the nineteenth century from https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/21/21-1394/226610/20220531125853185_Amicus%20Brief.pdf

That's not a holding but it reflects the current opinion of the USSC that there's no distinction between native born and natural born

Your chart lacks case law. Your chart is various uses of citizen and what you believe in the contemporary interpretation of natural born in the bottom row. But I maintain that the USSC disagrees and that's in the 1898 and subsequent cases. The USSC could overturn that case law but that's extremely unlikely.

178 posted on 07/27/2024 5:44:27 PM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: CrosscutSaw

In some states the average citizen can take it up challenge and have standing. But it depends on state laws.

Secretaries of State will sometimes refuse to allow ineligible candidates on ballots if they are clearly ineligible (under 35 years of age or a naturalized citizen).


179 posted on 07/27/2024 5:44:31 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: Macho MAGA Man; woodpusher

“Representative John Bingham of Ohio, considered the father of the 14th Amendment”

Bingham also said this on March 28th, 1868

“Who does not know that every person born within the limits of the Republic is, in the language of the Constitution, a natural-born citizen.”

He said this almost two years after the 14th Amendment had been passed in Congressand sent to the states for ratification. Seventeen states had ratified by the time Bingham said this.

https://books.google.com/books?id=w2g9AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA2212&lpg=PA2212&dq=%22Who+does+not+know+that+every+person+born+within+the+limits+of+the+Republic+is,+in+the+language+of+the+Constitution,+a+natural-born+citizen.%22&source=bl&ots=vh0qe92H1U&sig=ACfU3U21BDhSK37Pkx9gS51heUQkI_wgrQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj6lpyghsiHAxXvLkQIHY7aEHAQ6AF6BAgJEAM#v=onepage&q=%22Who%20does%20not%20know%20that%20every%20person%20born%20within%20the%20limits%20of%20the%20Republic%20is%2C%20in%20the%20language%20of%20the%20Constitution%2C%20a%20natural-born%20citizen.%22&f=false


180 posted on 07/27/2024 6:46:41 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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