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3 Army Reserve officers disciplined after reservist killed 18 people in Maine
AP ^ | July 23, 2024 | DAVID SHARP and PATRICK WHITTLE

Posted on 07/23/2024 12:55:30 PM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?

PORTLAND, Maine (AP) — Three Army Reserve officers were disciplined for dereliction of duty following a rampage in which a reservist killed 18 people in Maine, according to an Army report that cited communication failures within the chain of command and between military and civilian hospitals, among other shortcomings.

The report released Tuesday unearthed “a series of failures by unit leadership,” said Lt. Gen. Jody Daniels, chief of the Army Reserves, and administrative actions taken against the officers could prevent their further military advancement. The officers weren't identified.

Survivors and victims’ family members have been critical over missed opportunities to prevent the October 2023 attack. Family members and fellow reservists noticed the gunman exhibiting delusional and paranoid behavior months earlier. “My heart and soul goes out to all those families, the folks that were witnesses to what happened,” Daniels told reporters. “We’re doing the best that we can in terms of understanding what did transpire, then make changes for the future.”

The partially redacted report noted the gunman, Sgt. 1st Class Robert Card, had previously fallen from a ladder, a potential cause of head injuries uncovered in a post-mortem examination. Daniels said emphatically that there was no tie between his brain injury and his military service, even though the defense department is looking into the potential for damage caused by exposure to repeated blasts........

The report said there was enough evidence presented to commanders of Card’s deteriorating health that he shouldn’t have been allowed to attend training at West Point, where he was supposed to work on the machine gun range. And when he was hospitalized, he should’ve retained his on-duty status so the Army could better ensure continuity of care, the report said.

Instead, Card was released after 19 days of treatment in a psychiatric hospital

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Maine
KEYWORDS: army; armyreserve; banglist; crime; maine; reservist; shooter
I'm having a difficult time understanding how the Army Reserves are responsible? He was evaluated in a military hospital, then released, and somehow it's his chain of commands fault that he went postal.

However, the positions of the 3 reserve officers was not provided, maybe they were the medical personnel that released him.

1 posted on 07/23/2024 12:55:30 PM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?
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Original article location:

https://apnews.com/article/maine-mass-shooting-army-report-lewiston-e50ef7c7bb1ad0e9fa93ab7797950957


2 posted on 07/23/2024 1:01:20 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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heard sometime ago he was allowed in the armory near the time of the incident.


3 posted on 07/23/2024 1:03:01 PM PDT by bdfromlv (Leavenworth hard time)
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C Y A…..


4 posted on 07/23/2024 1:03:35 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Don’t vote for anyone over 70 years old. Get rid of the geriatric politicians.)
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This is reminiscent of the Sutherland Springs shooting where the Air Force did nothing about the violent behavior of Devin Kelley who killed 26 people.


5 posted on 07/23/2024 1:04:32 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (2 coups in less than 4 years. America is truly a first world Banana Republic.)
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“... administrative actions taken against the officers could prevent their further military advancement.”

No biggie, they can further their careers in the SS, FBI, CIA, ATF...you get the picture.


6 posted on 07/23/2024 1:08:03 PM PDT by chuckb87
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I’m guessing that the other soldiers reported to one or more of these officers that the man was making threats. That would be consistent with other times the officers were held accountable. If they were notified and took no action, then they’re at fault. Reasons they took no action could be, they didn’t want to deal with it, the soldier had some family or friend connection, or just the standard head-in-the-sand and hope nothing happens. If someone complained in writing, rather than just verbally, then the officers are in deep trouble. This sort of disciplinary action is usually grounded in a paper trail.


7 posted on 07/23/2024 1:08:14 PM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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But they did take actions and put him in for medical evaluation. This was the Reserves where the guy is a weekend warrior and not under their observation the rest of the time. It says they should have put him on extended active duty, not sure if that was the medical recommendation or not. A lot of information is not provided.


8 posted on 07/23/2024 1:19:20 PM PDT by where's_the_Outrage? (Drain the Swamp. Build the Wall.)
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“A lot of information is not provided.”

A lot of times while reading an article I find myself thinking, “now how the heck did they get from A to F? This makes no sense.” Having written numerous published articles, I’d have people call me and say, “You got it all wrong.” I’d go read the article and compare it with what I sent in, and the editor would say, “Oh, I had to cut a few paragraphs.” They might as well not have published it. But the editors are only interested in filling space, so ads don’t all run together.


9 posted on 07/23/2024 1:27:20 PM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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Military and civilian bureaucrats will always get it wrong.
“Our review identified several areas for improvement; however our assessment concluded that even a flawless execution by Army personnel in every identified area would likely not have prevented the tragic events,” that report said.

Republican Sen. Susan Collins said she and independent Sen. Angus King are working to ensure the military fully accesses state crisis intervention programs while protecting the Second Amendment rights of military personnel.

The Army report cited failures in the Reserve unit’s leadership; communication failures and delays between an Army hospital and a civilian psychiatric hospital where Card was treated in New York; and procedural failures that included an inadequate review of Card’s medical records before his case was closed by the Army Reserve Psychological Health Program.

In the times I was born, somebody acting crazy would have been sent to the looney bin.   No thought of Second Amendment rights would be needed, because a guy in a rubber room in a straight jacket would have no need for a gun.
10 posted on 07/23/2024 1:41:06 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! )
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I do wonder if sending him to a Neurologist crossed anyone’s mind? Traumatic Head Injuries can impact behavior big time. Sending him to the psychiatrist for a head injury would have not addressed the problem. It would have been 15 minutes, have some pills. and see you in 3 months.


11 posted on 07/23/2024 2:14:29 PM PDT by cva66snipe
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When did he embrace Islam?


12 posted on 07/23/2024 2:25:59 PM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Finish the damned WALL! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH! )
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I don’t remember this happening. Then I checked, and I was in between computers so mostly out of touch with the world.

Sounds like a crazy MF. Too bad a citizen didn’t take him out.


13 posted on 07/23/2024 3:00:32 PM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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Was there any repercussions on the National Guardsman who shot up the Edmond OK post office in 1986, and the news media coined the words “going postal”? He used to National Guard 1911 .45 pistols drawn from the armory.


14 posted on 07/23/2024 4:18:34 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( Government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is force!--G. Washington)
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