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Trump speaks to Zelensky, pledges to 'end the war' with Russia
France 24 ^ | France 24

Posted on 07/20/2024 4:25:56 AM PDT by hardspunned

A week after surviving an assassination attempt, US Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump on Friday said he spoke to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky by telephone, and pledged to end Ukraine's war with Russia. Trump has repeatedly claimed he would end the war quickly if elected but his frequent praise of Russian President Vladimir Putin, reluctance to directly criticise the Russian invasion and suggestions to back away from NATO deeply concern Ukraine's allies.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: pdjt; russia; trump; ukraine; ukrainewar; zeepersoutraged; zelensky; zelenskyqs; zelensy
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To: Rockingham

*Instead, Trump will politely, respectfully, and privately threaten Putin into a cease fire or even peace on terms that preserve Ukraine and protect its sovereignty but leave Putin and Russia with their sense of dignity intact.*

It works best. The hatred however will continue. Can Ukraine join the ‘normal’ world?
They seem as likable as the Russians and the krauts.


21 posted on 07/20/2024 5:48:33 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: DIRTYSECRET
Ukraine has gradually been Westernizing through free markets, rule of law, and attacks on corruption. Under Obama, Biden impeded that process by his and Hunter's rotten deal with Burisma that got the honest Ukrainian prosecutor fired in return for cash in the Bidens' pockets from Burisma.

We sometimes fail to appreciate fully the attraction of American culture and the model of democracy and civic life exemplified by the US and Western Europe. It can take a generation or two, but ordinary people around the world overwhelmingly prefer it as soon as they taste the fruits and get to see it in action.

For Ukraine, Poland is an encouraging example of a successful nearby country with strong historic and cultural ties to them. Despite the losses in WW II and the brutality of the Nazis and the Soviets, Poland today prospers and is a member of the EU and NATO. When your neighbor the Joneses are doing better than you, it makes sense to take a lesson from what they are doing.

22 posted on 07/20/2024 7:08:40 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: NorseViking

Russia’s sea trade via the Baltic is easily subject to interdiction by NATO and the EU.


23 posted on 07/20/2024 7:15:28 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: mewzilla

Like it or not, we are invested in Ukraine’s future. Cutting Ukraine off and letting Russia carve her apart would trigger a massive wave of refugees and further impair the reliability of America’s promises of support. The ill effects from that would be felt worldwide.


24 posted on 07/20/2024 7:19:50 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: hardspunned

Everyone wants peace. They want it on their terms though and are often willing to go to war to get those terms. In the Ukraine war, Putin’s goal is restoration of the power and influence of the Soviet Union. Recovering control of Ukraine is essential to that purpose.


25 posted on 07/20/2024 7:24:38 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham

If you call for piracy then two can play this game. Also don’t forget North-South transit and Arctic corridors in development.


26 posted on 07/20/2024 7:31:27 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: hardspunned

“When Trump speaks to Putin while making peace, which federal law will Garland charge him with violating?”

Logan Act?


27 posted on 07/20/2024 7:48:42 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Paging Dr. Bandy Lee. Dr. Lee please pick up the white courtesy phone.)
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To: Rockingham

Yeah, right! That’s why in March ‘22 he and the Ukrainians negotiated a peace that gave everything but Crimea back to Ukraine. Some Soviet Union. What a media putz!


28 posted on 07/20/2024 8:14:56 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: NorseViking
Interdiction of ships can be hard, as in a physical stop at sea, or soft, via fines, financial sanctions, and port-side arrests and seizures of ships, owners, crews, and commercial partners. Close observation and infrastructure already in place makes the Baltic the place to start, with Murmansk and Vladivostok to follow. Russia would have no answer to that.

China can also be threatened with financial sanctions on any banks or companies that do business with Russia. They would watch the development of an effective soft interdiction regime against Russia with alarm as dangerous experience and precedent for use against China.

The loss of most sea trade in bulk cargoes would have a devastating effect on the Russian economy.

29 posted on 07/20/2024 8:34:48 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: hardspunned
Not really. The deal was incomplete and even at best made Ukraine vulnerable to further predation from Russia at the time of her choice because it had no guarantors. If Russia wanted peace, they could simply do what they had promised to do and respect Ukraine's borders and political independence.
30 posted on 07/20/2024 8:47:26 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham

You can’t arrest ships that do not visit your ports. If you plan to do it on high seas, they will either.


31 posted on 07/20/2024 10:41:49 PM PDT by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

Ships and their owners and crews that are sanctioned become commercial pariahs unable to secure fuel and provisions in an ordinary manner and take the most efficient routes. And merchant crews dislike long voyages without fresh food and stops in port along the way. That reduces revenue, runs up costs, and makes them vulnerable in the event of emergencies.


32 posted on 07/21/2024 1:41:15 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: The Louiswu

My same thought and that this will be the basis to impeach Trump.


33 posted on 07/21/2024 2:19:40 AM PDT by Treeless Branch
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To: Rockingham

You are daydreaming. Nobody cares about American sanctions anymore, except Europe.
Look how that oil price cap worked. The discount for Urals blend is lowest in history, 10+% of heavy tankers in the world are carrying Russian oil, and Western companies lost monopoly on maritime insurance. Now Yellen is yelling that dollar is losing ground due to a fact that dirham and ruble are gaining weight in oil trade. What will be left of the US once dollar is over?


34 posted on 07/21/2024 2:38:13 PM PDT by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

Done incompetently, like Biden has done, sanctions can be evaded. Strongly applied, like Trump would so, they work.


35 posted on 07/21/2024 3:22:33 PM PDT by Rockingham
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