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Fascinating. Does anyone like JD's economics? It's kind of more populist than big business friendly.

The Chamber of Commerce won't be thrilled?

1 posted on 07/20/2024 12:55:36 AM PDT by RandFan
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Id like to have the depends franchise outside
chamber of commerce gathering


2 posted on 07/20/2024 1:02:18 AM PDT by BigEdLB (Let's go Brandon)
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The US Chamber of Commerce is one of the largest supporters of importing cheap foreign labor. They have money to buy politicians, and that really messes things up.

Local Chambers of Commerce are not like that.


3 posted on 07/20/2024 1:12:55 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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I went over to the WaPo and read some of George Wills's most recent columns. Oh, my Lord but I'm in schadenfreude heaven!

The butt hurt is so strong on that one that he's going to have to buy Preperation-H in a 55 gallon drum.

Lovin' it!

5 posted on 07/20/2024 1:25:57 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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Levin and Shapiro almost reflexively have taken Vance to task about his views on Wall Street, which adds a Jew-versus-you complexion to it. That’s unfortunate, because one can be opposed to actions of large financial institutions and not be antisemitic.


8 posted on 07/20/2024 1:58:59 AM PDT by twister881
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J.D. Vance isn’t your grandfather’s Republican. But maybe he’s your great grandfather’s Republican.

Pre-1952, the Republicans were split between eastern Republicans like Thomas E. Dewey of New York, and western Republicans like Robert A. Taft of Ohio.

Dewey was urban and urbane. A dapper fellow. He was a moderate conservative. Taft was a conservative of the “Old Right.” The “Old Right” was America First during the run-up to World War II (it shifted along with the country as Germany first invaded Poland and then France, and especially when Japan attacked us).

Both wings of the Republican Party advocated a strong economy as the best remedy to poverty and racial disparity. We believe in work, not welfare, and we look at Social Security and Medicare not as entitlements but as earned benefits.

Both wings of the Republican Party advocated a policy of peace through strength. (However, for a time, the neocons took over the party for a time, with their naive idea that we could easily make countries into democracies.)

For a long time, we Republicans thought a “balanced ticket” combined a Presidential candidate from one of the two wings with a Vice Presidential candidate from the other.

For example: McKinley (Ohio) and T. Roosevelt (New York); Harding (Ohio) and Coolidge (Massachusetts); you could even include Reagan (Illinois via California) and G.H.W. Bush (Connecticut via Texas).

This current ticket could be said to indicate a kind of end to the east-west dichotomy within the Republican Party in that both Trump (New York via Florida) and Vance (Ohio) share similar approaches to many issues.

Yes there’s change, but there’s also continuity.


9 posted on 07/20/2024 2:15:06 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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Some confusion from the article:
Although Vance emphasizes his hardscrabble upbringing in Middletown, Ohio, he began his career in venture capital after graduating from Yale Law School. His focus on technology startup firms gave him experience in private securities.

“I would assess him as a Silicon Valley guy who’s more comfortable with private markets than public markets,” Canning said. “That’s the landscape Vance knows very well and is very enthusiastic about.”

The person who said this (Michael Canning, principal at The LXR Group, a public policy firm specializing in financial services) doesn't seem to understand that venture capitalists don't get paid until the companies they fund either go public or get bought (usually by public companies).

The guys in the venture capital business are extremely aware of the importance of the public markets.

12 posted on 07/20/2024 2:59:16 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (It's funny that the harder I work, the luckier I get.)
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First, Roll Call is a DC establishment-oriented publication and has never been pro-Trump, so don't expect an accurate assessment of Trump's or Vance's policies. The author of this piece has experience covering labor issues (with a labor bias).

Second, Vance isn't going to be president, Trump is...and Trump understands that, with some exceptions, what is good for business is good for labor. Trump understands that the minimum wage, for example, is good for no one but the Democrats buying votes for specious reasons.

13 posted on 07/20/2024 3:05:46 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (It's funny that the harder I work, the luckier I get.)
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The Republicans need to phase out the term GOP. Give it something new and meaningful. The Grand Old Party is dead. Long live the MAGA Party.


15 posted on 07/20/2024 3:18:10 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Paging Dr. Bandy Lee. Dr. Lee please pick up the white courtesy phone.)
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JP Morgan Jerome Powell as treasury… um, then they would be not anti Wall Street, or more accurately anti bail out banking.
Regardless.. the government planned parenthood chemical abortion support is a walk away from national GOP.
People are willing to support chemical abortion because their grocery bill is too high must remember… you will not stand before any republican in judgement. You will stand before almighty God and give an account.
#WalkawayChurch


18 posted on 07/20/2024 3:20:02 AM PDT by momincombatboots (BQEphesians 6... who you are really at war with.)
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Big business can spit in normal Americans’ faces only so many times before we spit back. Corporate raiders are rotten leftists to the core on so many issues, including the climate scam, CRT, DEI, gun control, illegal aliens, “pride” month, “reparations,” etc. Wall Street wants this country in the Ukraine war. Don’t forget how the robber barons tried to force muzzles and vaccines on us. The banksters been sending jobs overseas and making China a superpower for decades now. The elites would *kill* President Trump if they could. We owe them *nothing,* and should *do* nothing to help of protect them!


20 posted on 07/20/2024 3:40:17 AM PDT by Big Brother Go to Hell
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The most effective way to support “the working man” is to set him free and protect his God given rights like a junkyard dog.

Let the Constitution be your guide and final arbiter. The and only then can we truly be the land of the free; home of the brave once again.

Everything else will fall into place.


21 posted on 07/20/2024 4:17:34 AM PDT by Thorium90
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Big business chose to fraternize with socialism and supports radical democrats. IOWs we are slouching towards fascism - literally. It was the deal between Bush business and the democrats so he could invade Iraq. It’s ruined the country and the world. JD Vance sees the world just fine.


24 posted on 07/20/2024 4:33:05 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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Consider the source...


25 posted on 07/20/2024 4:35:45 AM PDT by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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I think his message was, “Like President Trump, I can’t be bought”...


26 posted on 07/20/2024 4:45:49 AM PDT by trebb (So many fools - so little time...)
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Roll Call is a Dem front group rag .


28 posted on 07/20/2024 4:49:13 AM PDT by ncalburt ( Gop DC Globalists are the evil )
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Fascinating. Does anyone like JD’s economics? It’s kind of more populist than big business friendly.

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Is used to not like it until I studied economics in depth. The reality is that economics is never separated from politics. It also has (as a matter of practical application) several fundamental principles which are sometimes at odds with one another and must be balanced (such as a desire fore growth and efficiency verses a desire for stability and equity). The corporate class took conservative allegiance for granted and began to abuse us. Hell, they even jettisoned us for Woke culture within the last couple of decades. Corporate leaders, shareholders, lobbyists, and their bought-and-paid-for politicians deserve the political earthquake they’ve caused.


30 posted on 07/20/2024 5:20:16 AM PDT by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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The GOP has been making concessions to Liberals and everyone ELSE for too long!

Enough with that!


31 posted on 07/20/2024 5:26:45 AM PDT by SMARTY (In politics, stupidity is not a handicap. Napoleon Bonaparte I)
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With Jamie Dimon as their Sec. of Treasury?!?


35 posted on 07/20/2024 5:45:30 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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I think it’s reasonable. We used to have hundreds of banks. Local banks that knew their customers, who took chances based on the communities involved. Back in the 80’s I worked up in Canada and they had 4 banks and customer service sucked. When I came home I realized how important those local banks are to growth and economic stability. I watched in horror during the 2008+ years as small banks we buried under so many regulations most were forced out of business or devoured by the big banks.

Long story short, yeah, I do agree with him. We need those local banks who take a chance on builders and small construction companies. Let’s see what happens. Maybe the great entrepreneurial spirit can be nourished back to life.


37 posted on 07/20/2024 6:02:13 AM PDT by McGavin999 ( A sense of humor is a sign of intelligence, leftists have no sense of humor, therefore…)
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The Chamber of Commerce is not your friend.


44 posted on 07/20/2024 6:38:37 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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