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Officer reported man at Trump rally with range-finder 30 mins before assassination attempt: source
Fox News ^ | July 16, 2024 | Michael Ruiz, Sarah Rumpf-Whitten

Posted on 07/16/2024 6:53:35 AM PDT by House Atreides

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21 posted on 07/16/2024 7:44:31 AM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (The only good commie is one that's dead - Country Joe McDonald )
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To: MrBambaLaMamba

Does anyone not mentally ill believe this circumstance was not planned/intentional? Similarly, does anyone not mentally ill believe the FBI about anything after their years/decades of lieing to the American people?


22 posted on 07/16/2024 8:12:40 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp??)
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To: Vendome

“Why is no one talking about this?”

He was getting the protection level afforded a “former President,” not a Presidential Candidate or Party Nominee.

On purpose, with malice aforethought.


23 posted on 07/16/2024 8:21:58 AM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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To: House Atreides

This is looking more and more like a Pink Panther movie.


24 posted on 07/16/2024 8:26:44 AM PDT by caddie
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To: Red Badger

“Candace has lost her marbles for a while now”

True, but even a crazy squirrel stumbles upon a nut once in a great while.


25 posted on 07/16/2024 8:43:01 AM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: hal ogen

“Does anyone not mentally ill believe this circumstance was not planned/intentional?”

What? You mean to say the Powers That Be would allow some loser to take a potshot at a President and then kill him after he takes his shot so he can’t be questioned??? Never happen!!


26 posted on 07/16/2024 8:47:59 AM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: House Atreides

BTTT


27 posted on 07/16/2024 9:21:17 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: gundog

Much of what you said is open for discussion. The 5.56 does have an arched trajectory. Being familiar with this trajectory at what length of barrel and at what distance the weapon was zeroed in at ensures better accuracy.

In my opinion, zeroing a 5.56 in at 50 yards gives reasonable accuracy up to 200 yards.

If he used only open iron sights, the weapon should stay zeroed. If a quality red dot was used, it should still stay zeroed.

If he used a magnified red dot and compensated for trajectory, he could hit a grape fruit at 130 yards. If he used a range finder chances are he was quite familiar with the flight path of the round he used.

Just my opinion, more experienced shooters may disagree.


28 posted on 07/16/2024 9:27:17 AM PDT by redfreedom (Joseph Stalin: "It does not matter how anyone votes, how votes are counted is what matters.")
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To: House Atreides

This assumes that the man with the range finder was the assassin, and not a co-conspirator. Have their faces been matched? Has the range finder been found and were there prints to lift from it?


29 posted on 07/16/2024 3:23:27 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David. Clhild in need of a CGM system. https://gofund.me/6452dbf1. )
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To: gundog

“ Don’t you zero, or verify zero, on every trip to the range? He could have been dialing it in for a specific range, but with a flat shooter like 5.56, I’m sure it was good for 0-200”
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No, I don’t zero every trip to the range. But I ALWAYS do the first time I use a new weapon or get a weapon back that has been used or even in the possession of someone else.

My understanding is that the assassin’s father has many weapons and this could well have been the first time the son used that particular one. In any case, given the importance of his “mission”, it would have been prudent to zero pre mission.


30 posted on 07/16/2024 3:30:56 PM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MAX)
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To: Eleutheria5

Excellent questions.


31 posted on 07/16/2024 3:33:15 PM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MAX)
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To: House Atreides

The moment there was any suspicious activity or a report of such, SS should have delayed the rally. PERIOD


32 posted on 07/16/2024 3:34:06 PM PDT by RRismyhero
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To: House Atreides
Yeah...I check zero before hunting season. But, if something strays off zero, I’ll correct it at the range when I detect it.

Kid must have been a stone-cold psychopath to remain as calm as he was. Adrenalin should have been through the roof, and he should have known that he was seconds from death.

33 posted on 07/16/2024 4:34:46 PM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: House Atreides

Doesn’t every golfer have a range-finder these days?

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=golf+range-finder&iax=images&ia=images


34 posted on 07/16/2024 7:55:08 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: redfreedom
The 5.56 does have an arched trajectory.

Every bullet does!

It'll go STRAIGHT through the barrel but as soon as it leaves, gravity takes over.


It's a law!

35 posted on 07/16/2024 7:58:31 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: redfreedom
The 5.56 does have an arched trajectory.

Every bullet does!

It'll go STRAIGHT through the barrel but as soon as it leaves, gravity takes over.


It's a law!

36 posted on 07/16/2024 7:59:19 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: gundog

OK, the shooter had and used a range finder. Why?

Did he not know the range from the roof to Trump? If it was a deep state setup, the range was known to about 1/2 inch.

If someone pre-dialed his gun, he did not need to range.

If he was a video game shooter, then ‘range finding’ is part of the shooter’s procedure, and he ‘should do that’.

If he had never been there before, and was really on his own, maybe range finding indicates that.

Like many have said, 223/5.56 is so flat that if he had any estimate of the distance he would not have to adjust/compensate (unless he watched some movies or video games and they did).

I am suggesting that his use of a range finder indicated his state of mind. ‘I am supposed to to this, for accuracy’. Maybe meaning he was not set up for the shot, thinking he was on his own.

But then, if he was on drugs or meds (did anyone check - has he been cremeated yet?) this was just a detail for him; the big picture was him shooting.


37 posted on 07/16/2024 9:43:33 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Running Rampant, and not endorsing nonsense; My pronoun is EXIT. And I am generally full of /S)
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To: Scrambler Bob

Yeah...the original M-16 A1 rear sight had a single aperture for ranges 0-300 yards(maybe meters). We’ll never know where he was aiming...center of mass, head shot...


38 posted on 07/16/2024 10:07:49 PM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: Elsie

Well, not really. The 5.56 gains in elevation right out of the barrel, then starts to drop.

When I bought my first 5.56 the guy selling it told me how the projectile performs at various distances. It was obvious he was telling me the bullet goes up from the line of sight then drops. When I started shooting it, it was obvious he was right.

A good article discussing the subject is
https://www.everydaymarksman.co/equipment/barrel-length-trajectory/

My first 5.56 is a 16 inch barrel. The next purchase is a 20 inch barrel which is more accurate due to higher velocity.

Two points to make here, is you’ve got to do range time at various distances and settle on a good distance to zero in on. Fifty yards is my choice.

The second point is the assassin was well aware of what I just said, as he had a range finder and must have had a range card indicating the rise or drop of the projectile for an accurate head shot. The good news is Trump turned his head the same time the assassin decided to pull the trigger.

The assassin was not the idiot his high school buddies said he was at their rifle range. Someone trained this guy in ballistics as well as political thought.


39 posted on 07/17/2024 4:24:54 AM PDT by redfreedom (Joseph Stalin: "It does not matter how anyone votes, how votes are counted is what matters.")
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To: redfreedom
The 5.56 gains in elevation right out of the barrel, then starts to drop.

If the barrel is level, what possibly can cause a spinning bullet to 'lift'?

40 posted on 07/17/2024 5:47:31 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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