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What if the U.S. had been told to stop fighting Japan during WWII, the way Israel is being told to stop fighting Hamas?
American Thinker ^ | 07/13/2024 | Michael S. Goldstein

Posted on 07/13/2024 8:12:33 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

No matter its stated reasons, no matter how misguided its policy, the United States administration, advised by its historically anti-Israel Department of State, is putting severe pressure on Israel to stop fighting Hamas in Gaza, without permitting it first to achieve its war aim of complete destruction of this threat to its existence. They are doing it without regard for the consequences to Israel, its population, and to the Western world.

Given the arrogance of the Biden administration’s dictating a suicidal wartime policy to an allied government which must answer to its own people, it is instructive to consider the potential consequences, had similar pressure been imposed upon the United States during WWII to stop its war against Japan’s military, to relinquish the accomplishment of its war aims, and to negotiate, in 1944, a ceasefire with Japan’s military totalitarian government.

It is mid-1944. The U.S. military has secured Saipan and the other Mariana Islands and is preparing to build there a complex of airbases from which the new B-29 long range bombers would historically burn down many Japanese cities and kill hundreds of thousands of Japanese civilian noncombatants.

But in this imagined scenario, it is not to be.

A confluence of pressures demands that the U.S. military cease its operations against Japan, and, rather than continuing to completion what was its historic policy of demanding unconditional surrender, the United States government is compelled to negotiate a ceasefire with Japan’s military government.

Such pressure potentially could have come from politics in this, a presidential election year. It could have come from friends or allies; from an American public concerned with the deaths of too many Japanese civilians during the Saipan campaign, or because of the mounting casualty figures among U.S. military personnel.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Gaza; Hamas; Israel; Japan; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: gaza; hamas; israel; japan; japanese; unitednations; unrwa; untiednations; unwra; waronterror
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1 posted on 07/13/2024 8:12:33 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Hiroshima and Nagasaki would have been war crimes.


2 posted on 07/13/2024 8:14:58 AM PDT by DownInFlames (P)
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To: SeekAndFind

They can fight whoever the hell they want, without our money, troops and weapons.


3 posted on 07/13/2024 8:15:47 AM PDT by FLvoter
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To: SeekAndFind

What if elephants had long necks instead of giraffes?


4 posted on 07/13/2024 8:16:13 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (Kafka was an optimist.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Perhaps:

Train dogs to go after people holding guns.

Turn those dogs lose in the tunnels.

The hostages don’t have guns and would not get harmed by the dogs.


5 posted on 07/13/2024 8:24:18 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: SeekAndFind

We’d have just told them to “Get Pumped”.


6 posted on 07/13/2024 8:25:58 AM PDT by dagunk
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To: DownInFlames

Yeah. Japan, you know, flew a few planes, sank a few ships in Hawaii, and then the US went all “crazy” with a totally disproportionate response that totally ruined the Japanese Empire and nuked two cities. It’s clear who the bad guys were. War crime trials for the winners!


7 posted on 07/13/2024 8:27:12 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (It's not "Quiet Quitting" -- it's "Going Galt".)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Summary of the Geneva Conventions of 1949 and Their Additional Protocols”

https://www.redcross.org/content/dam/redcross/atg/PDF_s/International_Services/International_Humanitarian_Law/IHL_SummaryGenevaConv.pdf


8 posted on 07/13/2024 8:33:10 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: FLvoter

They can fight whoever the hell they want, without our money, troops and weapons.
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Exactly, but with a hitch….did I ( you) get to vote for Afghanistan, Iraq Debacle? Or senile Joe’s Ukie war? Or $$$ billions sent down the filthy Ukrainian toilet?

No the people did not. We are a Republic, and this is what happens to Republics when the “ elected officials” become corrupted, putting their citizens last, more caring about power, special interests and money….this is also how Revolutions occur, no different than having a ruling Monarch or Dictator.

Term limits are the only answer to maintaining a Republic.

“ A republic if you can keep it”, Ben Franklin.


9 posted on 07/13/2024 8:38:09 AM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

The place to get the money back is to get out of EVERY globalist orginization.


10 posted on 07/13/2024 8:41:11 AM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I mean how else are they going to build that new canal if they don’t destroy Gaza and Hamas first..


11 posted on 07/13/2024 8:42:48 AM PDT by cherry
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To: SeekAndFind

The first fire bombing of Tokyo would have been meet with condemning editorials from the new york times. Libs would have cried racism.


12 posted on 07/13/2024 8:45:29 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: delta7

> Term limits are the only answer to maintaining a Republic. <

Yes. As you noted, the longer politicians stay in office, the less they care about the average citizen.

Imposing term limits is actually very doable. But all current office-holders must be exempt. That’s distasteful. But it would be the only way to get their support.

There is precedence for this. When presidential term limits were imposed, the current president (Harry Truman) was exempt from the new rules.


13 posted on 07/13/2024 8:47:08 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Special note:

If the USG had NOT imposed strict wartime orders for the press,

and

If the media of today was present in 1945,

Damn skippy we’d have seen public sentiment turn as it did during Vietnam.

(the secret sauce lies within)


14 posted on 07/13/2024 8:49:21 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: SeekAndFind

No need to even refer back as far as Japan.


15 posted on 07/13/2024 8:50:42 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: SeekAndFind

Quotes:

On June 22 1982, Joe Biden was a Senator from Delaware and confronted then Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin during his Senate Foreign Relations committee testimony, threatening to cut off aid to Israel.

Begin forcefully responded, “Don’t threaten us with cutting off your aid. It will not work. I am not a Jew with trembling knees. I am a proud Jew with 3,700 years of civilized history. Nobody came to our aid when we were dying in the gas chambers and ovens. Nobody came to our aid when we were striving to create our country. We paid for it. We fought for it. We died for it. We will stand by our principles. We will defend them. And, when necessary, we will die for them again, with or without your aid.”

https://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2020/06/menachem-begin-to-joe-biden-i-am-not-a-jew-with-trembling-knees-3527055.html

Quotes:

According to the many reports on this meeting, back in 1982, the American senator reportedly banged his fist on the table. Begin wasn’t pleased with this attitude.

He responded. “This desk is designed for writing, not for fists. Don’t threaten us with slashing aid. Do you think that because the US lends us money it is entitled to impose on us what we must do?”

https://www.jpost.com/opinion/article-800679

“If you have the facts on your side, pound the facts; if you have the law on your side, pound the law; if you have neither the facts nor the law, pound the table.”

https://fordhaminstitute.org/national/commentary/pound-table


16 posted on 07/13/2024 8:52:15 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: SeekAndFind

Much like the Copperheads in the Civil War.


17 posted on 07/13/2024 9:00:59 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( Government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is force!--G. Washington)
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To: FLvoter

“without our money, troops and weapons”

Israel doesn’t need our money or our troops.

If Israel doesn’t get US smart bombs, it will use dumb bombs.

Smart bombs generally cause less collateral damage than dumb bombs.


18 posted on 07/13/2024 9:01:51 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: ealgeone

I am surprised the NY Times did not call for Total War against islam after 9-11.
Nah, it was the New York Times.


19 posted on 07/13/2024 9:02:35 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( Government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is force!--G. Washington)
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To: Leaning Right

“term limits”

Unless elected people know the ropes, the bureaucrats will run the show.


20 posted on 07/13/2024 9:04:10 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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