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Obama's Potential Return: Biden's Bold Move to Make Him VP and Successor Discussed by Legal Scholars
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Posted on 07/05/2024 12:03:33 AM PDT by aquila48

Latest reports indicates that legal scholars suggest that Democratic strategists may be exploring a controversial loophole that could potentially bring former President Barack Obama back to the White House.

The proposed strategy involves nominating Obama as President Joe Biden's running mate in the 2024 election, positioning him to succeed Biden should he step down after the election as reported by NEWSMAX on July 4, 2024.

According to constitutional experts, this move hinges on the interpretation of the 22nd Amendment, which prohibits a person from being elected to the presidency more than twice.

However, the amendment does not explicitly forbid a twice-elected president from serving as vice president or from ascending to the presidency through succession.

The theoretical strategy would require President Biden to win reelection with Obama as his vice president. Biden would then step down, allowing Obama to assume the presidency once again.

This legal interpretation is unprecedented and would undoubtedly face significant legal challenges and political opposition.

While the 22nd Amendment clearly limits a president to two elected terms, it doesn't specifically address a former president serving as vice president and subsequently becoming president through succession," explained Professor Lawrence Tribe, a constitutional law expert.

"This ambiguity presents a potential loophole that could be exploited."Democratic strategists are reportedly considering this bold move as a way to galvanize the party and secure a decisive victory in the 2024 election.

Obama's enduring popularity within the Democratic base and his proven leadership could provide a significant boost to Biden's campaign.

However, the proposal has sparked intense debate among legal scholars, political analysts, and the public.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 0000001absurdfalse; 0001totalbs; bananarepublic; biden; ineligible; lawrencetribe; moondoggiemaximus; obama; obamanation; puppetmasterbarack; replacingjoe; unconstitutional
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Please read before posting. O’Bastard would be the Demonic Party VEEP candidate not the actual VEEP.


61 posted on 07/05/2024 6:28:38 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

—> Please read before posting.

Read before posting!

BLAHAHAHAHA!!!!!


62 posted on 07/05/2024 6:30:19 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (🦅 MAGADONIAN ⚔️ )
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To: aquila48

They really must have some serious crimes they are trying to keep hidden.


63 posted on 07/05/2024 6:32:02 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I am not an expert in anything, and my opinion is just that, an opinion. I may be wrong.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

It’s still a violation of the 12th amendment and is a non-starter.

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100% correct. This is nothing more than a distraction.

“But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.”

https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-12/


64 posted on 07/05/2024 7:23:21 AM PDT by mlitefan (Long time lurker...)
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To: irishjuggler

Seems pretty clear to me. I remember hearing this nonsense back in 2016. I went back and looked at the wording: NOPE


65 posted on 07/05/2024 7:50:35 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim (C)
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To: aquila48
I suggested they might do this earlier this week. The precedent has already been established to some degree. There is nothing that would prevent a VP to serve out the term of a replaced President then to successfully run for two subsequent terms after that and thus serve more than two terms. The provision only prohibits ELECTION more than two times.

If Curious George wants to do this and can get heels up harris out of the way it is plausible. It is plausible to even campaign on this basis. Biden would win.

66 posted on 07/05/2024 8:03:52 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (The Government that got us in this mess is not the Government that can get us out of it.)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie
And I'd argue they would not have a leg to stand on.

I'll participate in a little speculation, just for now.

If they can slide harris aside and replace her with Curious George (obama) as the VP running mate. They continue the brandon campaign and win, brandon resigns, curious george becomes president again. They could even run promoting this idea. curious george is already appearing very front and center in campaign adds. As a consolation they could promise harris the VP slot after brandon leaves. All slight of hand and all perfectly legal but probably nobody would have ever expected such subterfuge. The idea also eliminates the sticky problem of transfer of the $240 million in campaign funds dedicated to brandon.

The precedent allowing this is already set to a degree but slightly reversed. Nothing prohibits a VP from finishing the term of an incapacitated or removed president and then running on his own for two more terms. Theodore Roosevelt has already done this. The only thing now prevented is to run for office more than twice. Nothing but the voters could prevent anyone from playing this scam multiple times so long as the VP candidate was willing to risk his being raised to the throne. There was never any doubt or question that Johnson could have done it, Truman could have done it and Ford would have if he could. None of these three could accomplish either election or reelection though.

If the dims did this brandon would defeat Trump, I have little doubt. curious george would love it. You can bet this has already been proposed and even underway. curious george has already been the behind the scenes president for the last three plus years. He even said in an interview that if he could remain behind the scenes and pull the levers of the presidency he would do it. He probably has already. Consider how he has behaved on the stage with brandon lately.

As for approval of a running mate, Congress has nothing to do with it. As for approval of a successor President in the event of death, resignation or removal, same thing. The elected VP becomes President.

67 posted on 07/05/2024 8:41:58 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (The Government that got us in this mess is not the Government that can get us out of it.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Certainly not as a running mate.


68 posted on 07/05/2024 8:42:28 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (The Government that got us in this mess is not the Government that can get us out of it.)
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To: Sequoyah101

I’m not so sure.
If clinton is the VP, they can arrange for Kamala to have an accident. It is the Clinton way.


69 posted on 07/05/2024 8:46:55 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (🦅 MAGADONIAN ⚔️ )
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To: aquila48

Not Possible, NOT eligible..... wait.....


70 posted on 07/05/2024 8:49:38 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: SomeCallMeTim
I really do wish I thought your opinion is iron clad correct. It will be interesting to see what the legal scholars say about this.

I can see a USSC response being something like the one about immunity where Roberts wrote:

Furthermore, granting presidents immunity from prosecution for their official acts clearly falls within the Supreme Court’s precedents and does not constitute a reversal from “long-established legal principles.” As Chief Justice Roberts wrote in his opinion, the U.S. “has never before needed an answer” to the question of when a former president may “be prosecuted for official acts taken during his presidency.”

The aberration is the prosecution, not the decision that some official acts are immune from it.

71 posted on 07/05/2024 8:57:14 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (The Government that got us in this mess is not the Government that can get us out of it.)
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To: mlitefan
At the time of the Twelfth Amendment there was only Article II and the only qualification for President was in Article II. It could be argued that, since the Twenty-second Amendment was silent on qualification that it only limited the number of times a person could be Elected as President, nothing was said about VP elections at all.

I have not seen any legal discussion on the matters but the USSC has interpreted the law and the Constitution as to intent as well as statements.

I am not saying I favor any of this but I do fear it since I see a loophole. In the past we just assumed that people would be reasonable and see the intent and follow it. No such discipline is evident in the left these days. Roberts noted in his ruling on Presidential Immunity that the question of immunity hadn't even come up in the past, neither has this, nobody has ever attempted such a bold subterfuge. It is something that once would have been considered dishonorable and out of bounds.

Furthermore, granting presidents immunity from prosecution for their official acts clearly falls within the Supreme Court’s precedents and does not constitute a reversal from “long-established legal principles.” As Chief Justice Roberts wrote in his opinion, the U.S. “has never before needed an answer” to the question of when a former president may “be prosecuted for official acts taken during his presidency.”

The aberration is the prosecution, not the decision that some official acts are immune from it.

72 posted on 07/05/2024 9:15:20 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (The Government that got us in this mess is not the Government that can get us out of it.)
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To: SaveFerris

The __________may be telling Obama everything that he wants to be done to the United States, and that from the very instant Obama sat in the Oval Office. Sat of course as he is NOT a natural born citizen of the U.S. and was thus ineligible to even be a candidate nor a nominee or then on the ballot. But a goodly chunk of the Black population wanted to “make history with the first Black President”. Hey I heard it while I was at work all the time. They were practically worshipping this piece of filth and wickedness and cheered when the results came in late on Election Night (I worked the graveyard shift). They jeered, laughed and cursed at the TV in the break room when President Bush Jr. conceded. Just before all that, the stock market fell EXACTLY 777 points.

So then Obama gets another four years to plant his filth in the Oval Office, that time because not only heavy indoctrination was still in full swing from the first four years of abomination, it increased in intensity and also included the illegally-cast votes of invaders. Third Term, complete steal of the Election by political coup of a Sitting President during the General Election and inserting Biden The Puppet, inciting to riot of vicious mobs and imprisonment of political prisoners. Four years later they’re still imprisoned. And more are being taken away. Or murdered.

Trump is solidly planted by vote as the Nominee for President of The United States for 2025 - 2028 and has chosen a running mate. He will be on the ballot no matter what Obama does. Everything they’ve tried to do and are still trying to do to keep Donald J. Trump away from The Presidential Election and a Second Term is failing.

I believe it is God exposing the deepest darkness of wickedness and depravity to His Light and nothing Obama or anyone will be able to do anything about it.
GOD IS THE I AM THAT I AM.

Noticing also the news of prominent pastors being exposed for sexual abuse and misconduct. GOD is cleaning things out, starting with the churches.
We’ve known for way too many years this has been going on in Catholic Churches to children. Still ongoing.

Will GOD spare The United States from judgement, since it is behaving like Sodom and Gomorrah?

Lot and his family (except his wife, who looked back and became a pillar of salt), were brought out before the angels struck the cities.

There’s still ten faithful left in the city. Believers in Christ Jesus who have stayed the course and are fighting the Good Fight of Faith. Winning The Race, going to that Heavenly Kingdom of God where all believers’ true Home is, that’s where my precious mom and dad are right now.

What an example they were to me and so many others!
Because of them, more came into The Kingdom of God. And leading others to Christ because they were made disciples. Not just converts.

Believers, we need to start going about our day out in this world with The Holy Bible in one hand and our employ in the other. People have to see this. They need to hear The Word preached.

Your own front porch can be a pulpit. Let The Holy Spirit flow through you and say what He tells you to say. Start in Matthew or in Genesis, the basis for Proof of God’s Creation.

If you can play a musical instrument, sing spiritual songs from The Word, Holy Scriptures.

Praise His Holy Name, all the earth!


73 posted on 07/05/2024 9:36:42 AM PDT by Patriot777 ("When you see these things begin to happen, look up, for your redemption draweth nigh.")
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To: Patriot777

Yes, the cult worship was off-the-charts. __________-level worship (almost).

I don’t know if you saw the bottom portion of my comment here:

https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4248974/posts?page=33#32

He may wind up being one of the 10 leaders - one of the 10 horns that works with the Little Horn that subdues 3 others.

He is.... ___something___ - I don’t know - his power to deceive is remarkable and not in a good way.

It’s like those who worship him are already under a delusion.


74 posted on 07/05/2024 9:42:41 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Violation of the 12 Amendment AND the original Constitution wording. He cannot be VP because he was already Present-dent, and cannot be present-dent because he already had two terms as present-dent. Not possible in any fashion. He tries it, it will be f around and find out. Not walking.


75 posted on 07/05/2024 10:28:14 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: John S Mosby
In its simplest terms, the 12th amendment forbids Electors from voting for someone for Vice President whom they're forbidden from voting for President.

-PJ

76 posted on 07/05/2024 10:37:37 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Political Junkie Too

Once again….you inject calm facts into a hyperbolic conversation. Ha Ha.


77 posted on 07/05/2024 10:39:23 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Don’t vote for anyone over 70 years old. Get rid of the geriatric politicians.)
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To: aquila48

Watch those who swore that Trump would seek a third term and
trash him for it with no proof whatsoever, think this is a
swell idea.


78 posted on 07/05/2024 2:40:01 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands. )
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To: Political Junkie Too

Sure does. I should have searched more thoroughly. Last sentence of 12A: “But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.”


79 posted on 07/05/2024 5:06:05 PM PDT by jimfree (My 21 y/o granddaughter continues to have more quality exec experience than Joe Biden.)
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To: SaveFerris

He could very well be one of the 10 horns. He’s a deceiver from the get-go, and a segment of the population worship him like he’s some kind of king. And he acted like it, demanding it of everyone around him those 8 years. He still does and murders those who don’t or reject his sexual advances.

He blew the cover of every undercover agent working for the United States his 1st term, no telling how many survived it at all.

He attacked believers in Christ Jesus who had businesses by using the IRS, having them audited.

He tried to murder several Republican Congressmen having a baseball game by having someone shoot at them. One man nearly died.

No telling how many children were murdered at his hands and his cronies. And still are.

He hated Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu because he couldn’t bully him or control him, and also because Netanyahu was extremely cunning and intelligent. M.I.T. graduate. The last time Netanyahu was at The White House with I think Danny Danon (Israeli Ambassador), Obama left the meeting and left them sitting in a room for quite a long time. They didn’t even know Obama was on the other side of the premises having a screaming fit and throwing a tantrum and objects everywhere.
Some time later, an aide or someone came and told them the meeting was over and to leave.


80 posted on 07/05/2024 6:07:55 PM PDT by Patriot777 ("When you see these things begin to happen, look up, for your redemption draweth nigh.")
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