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Russia is studying an intact U.S. ATACMS missile guidance system, says RIA
Reuters ^ | 7/1/24 | Reuters

Posted on 07/03/2024 8:46:57 AM PDT by hardspunned

July 1 (Reuters) - Russian forces have captured an intact guidance system from a long-range U.S.-made ATACMS missile and are studying the American military technology, Russia's RIA state news agency said on Monday. Video footage released by RIA showed an unidentified weapons expert, with his face concealed by a balaclava, examining what he said was a guidance system from an Army Tactical Missile Systems (ATACMS) weapon apparently shot down by Russian forces. Reuters could not verify the equipment shown in the video.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: atacms; killkillkillforpeace; mic; ukraine; welfarewar
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If true, not good.
1 posted on 07/03/2024 8:46:57 AM PDT by hardspunned
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To: hardspunned

Good job Joe. He fs up everything he touches.


2 posted on 07/03/2024 8:48:25 AM PDT by DownInFlames (P)
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To: hardspunned

Well, to be fair, I’m sure anything we give Ukraine is 20 years out-of-date.


3 posted on 07/03/2024 8:51:40 AM PDT by Lazamataz (joesbucks is back. Let's remedy that! šŸ˜)
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To: DownInFlames

The more likely story is that this was given to them intentionally, like how Clinton gave the Chinese missile technology.


4 posted on 07/03/2024 8:55:27 AM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: hardspunned

So much for keeping our secrets, secret. Thanks Joe, our enemies are certainly getting their moneyā€™s worth. Too bad the same cannot be said for the American people!


5 posted on 07/03/2024 8:57:18 AM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Stingā€¦)
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To: hardspunned
How many of Hunter's paintings did Russia have to buy to get this?

Reminds me of when Obama GAVE Iran one of our classified drones. Obama could've blown it up or even recovered it but he decided to LET IRAN KEEP IT.

6 posted on 07/03/2024 8:57:50 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: Lazamataz

They never export cutting-edge stuff. Once it’s sold/given away, you can’t control what happens to it.


7 posted on 07/03/2024 8:58:13 AM PDT by Campion (Everything is a grace, everything is the direct effect of our Father's love - Little Flower)
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To: Lazamataz
....Iā€™m sure anything we give Ukraine is 20 years out-of-date.

And Moscow doesn't have the technology base to copy even that. They're dependent on smuggling chips from the West to make washing machines.

8 posted on 07/03/2024 9:14:32 AM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan (Your insults are my rocket fuel. )
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To: Lazamataz

ā€œ20 years out of dateā€
How right you are. The ATACMS were designed in the 80s. The Russians shoot a large majority of them down already. 20 years out of date but the absolute best weā€™ve got.


9 posted on 07/03/2024 9:15:34 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: hardspunned

Remember the advanced drone Obama allowed Iran to capture intact and didn’t order blown up? Accelerated enemy drone technology by a decade (which is probably what Obama wanted anyway.)


10 posted on 07/03/2024 9:16:26 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Lazamataz

I’m sure we haven’t forgotten the British game of building boxes full of fantastically complicated electronics that did nothing, damaging them as if from a plane crash, and leaving them where the Germans could find them.


11 posted on 07/03/2024 9:19:04 AM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan (Your insults are my rocket fuel. )
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To: hardspunned

1st used in the Gulf War. It’s 40 years old.


12 posted on 07/03/2024 9:42:12 AM PDT by Theophilus (covfefe)
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To: hardspunned
YouTube-LRPF
13 posted on 07/03/2024 9:46:42 AM PDT by Theophilus (covfefe)
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To: Lazamataz

That particular item is not old. It’s in current inventory and currently in manufacture. However, the only thing they might get from this are clues on how to jam to guidance.

The problem for them would be manufacture. Some components are likely specific for the weapon and are made either in house or by a specialty firm.

Let’s face it. When you’re in a war the enemy will get working samples of your technology. It’s unavoidable. Assuming they could reverse engineer it, they wouldn’t have a working production model in the next ten years.


14 posted on 07/03/2024 9:55:12 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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To: hardspunned

I worked with Honeywell’s LRG’s and MEMS guidance systems. JDAMS, Stingers, KEAPS, David’s Sling, etc....

NONE of it was classified.

“Weapon’s Expert”.... Just a guy walking by wondering what that ‘thing’ is...


15 posted on 07/03/2024 9:59:45 AM PDT by griffin (When you have to shoot, SHOOT; don't talk. -Tuco)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan; All

Here is the video of the ATACM guidance module.

https://x.com/GrandpaRoy2/status/1807649774830485555

Point to point wiring and 1990’s laser ring gyros.

My question, since it is so “primitive” why can’t the USA produce more than a few hundred per year?

“The missile supplies will increase up to dozens delivered every few months until at least the end of 2024.”

https://en.defence-ua.com/analysis/ukraine_wont_be_running_short_of_atacms_production_rates_and_stock_estimates-10384.html


16 posted on 07/03/2024 10:01:57 AM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: griffin

You are soft peddling the significance of this, if true, to a large degree.


17 posted on 07/03/2024 10:07:59 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: Reverend Wright
My question, since it is so ā€œprimitiveā€ why canā€™t the USA produce more than a few hundred per year?

DEI workers only, allowed for US production.

18 posted on 07/03/2024 10:11:17 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: hardspunned

LOL....

Type in LASER RING GYRO into google and you can obtain a plethora of information on it. Even very pretty pictures and the theory of operation. Old tech. LOL.

If you think they don’t already have intel on it over the span of 25 years since I worked on it, in a unclassified facility where we actually developed, modified, and manufactured them....then I don’t have nothing more for ya.

(shrug)

The MEMS inertial guidance section is much more modern than old LRG tech. All the MEMS stuff, hardware wise, is a bunch of micro strain gauges on a bunch of very tiny chemically etched beams. Firmware to monitor gauge data vs. noise filtering is not that challenging or novel.

Sorry to pop the secret black box bubble. NONE of it was classified.


19 posted on 07/03/2024 10:15:56 AM PDT by griffin (When you have to shoot, SHOOT; don't talk. -Tuco)
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To: hardspunned

Oops


20 posted on 07/03/2024 10:16:20 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (I'd rather have one king 3000 miles away that 3000 kings one mile away)
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