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Ukraine to be told it is too corrupt to join Nato
The Telegraph ^ | 7/3/24 | Joe Barnes

Posted on 07/03/2024 5:15:32 AM PDT by JonPreston

Ukraine will be told it is currently too corrupt to join Nato, in a major blow to Volodymyr Zelensky.

The alliance will request “additional steps” from Kyiv before membership talks progress, a senior official in the US State Department said.

The position will be set out in writing in the Nato communique to be signed at the alliance’s annual summit on July 9.

Mr Zelensky, Ukraine’s president, is pushing for swift Nato membership after the war ends to protect from future invasion. It would compel the US and Europe to come to the defence of Kyiv in the event of any Russian attack.

But corruption has been a sticking point in recent talks between Nato member states over whether to offer Ukraine a concrete timetable for joining the Western military alliance.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Ukraine
KEYWORDS: corrupt; killkillkillforpeace; mic; nato; ukraine; welfarewar; zeepersoutraged
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To: rlmorel
After all, that is what Leftists do. And in the end, whether they misuse the money themselves, or support those that do, they are all the same.

Hey There!

My view, as the world renouned philosopher once said: "Fake but Accurate"

Happy Independence day!

21 posted on 07/03/2024 5:38:22 AM PDT by C210N (Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.)
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To: JonPreston

Does that mean in order to join NATO which was founded, paid for and run by the USA, Ukraine needs to stop kicking back to the USA leaders? WTF? Just can’t bribe anyone anymore and get the required results…..


22 posted on 07/03/2024 5:40:51 AM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting…)
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To: JonPreston

“Ukraine to be told it is too corrupt to join Nato”

We have some Zeepers here who claim that our money going to Ukraine is well-tracked.

Considering that once we hand money to Ukraine, it is gone from our sight (thanks to the Neocons demanding no audit trail), how are we Americans supposed to process the fact that Ukraine is too corrupt for even NATO, yet not corrupt when it comes to our money.

Kind of like my dad saying (not long ago) that there’s no need for Voter ID because certain classes of people, who are criminals in every other aspect of their lives, would NEVER cheat at the voting booth, even if paid to do so. They just wouldn’t do that.


23 posted on 07/03/2024 5:45:41 AM PDT by BobL
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To: JonPreston

Bugatti

/s


24 posted on 07/03/2024 5:46:27 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: JonPreston

But wait. I thought that this war was because of NATO’s aggressive expansion into Ukraine. NATO does not want Ukraine; I guess that the Russians can go home now.


25 posted on 07/03/2024 5:47:34 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: rlmorel

“My take on it is, when you sent tens or hundreds of billions of dollars to a completely corrupt regime, with no strings attached and no oversight, only a Leftist would expect they wouldn’t use it to buy houses, jewelry, and cars.”

Don’t fool yourself, the Zeepers know that much, if not most, of the money going to Ukraine is, how does one say ‘diverted’. But some does make it into productive use (in their sick minds) as it results in dead Ruzzians, so the ‘good’ (in their sick minds) outweighs the bad.


26 posted on 07/03/2024 5:49:14 AM PDT by BobL
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To: JonPreston; aMorePerfectUnion

ZEEPERS HARDEST HIT

MarxistMarcus is gonna have a stroke.


27 posted on 07/03/2024 5:49:36 AM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: Petrosius

“But wait. I thought that this war was because of NATO’s aggressive expansion into Ukraine.”

In part, at least you heard that much from Putin (which is very rare for your side). Now trying listening to the rest of what he’s saying. Then you’ll have your answer as to why he’s still there.


28 posted on 07/03/2024 5:52:06 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Petrosius

The Russians are home according to their recent vote.


29 posted on 07/03/2024 5:56:50 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: BobL

I will be the first to admit that in any kind of warfare situation, money and material are going to be misused.

There is no way around it. You can’t put a lid on all the expenditures in a war environment, simply because war is chaotic and destructive.

It is wasteful by nature.

So, some of that is to be expected in every war. But just giving money like that to people the way we have is criminal management and encourages it.

Especially giving it in that fashion to people who have a history of it, as Ukraine does.

If we had done that with great Britain in 1939, we would not expect the same level of corruption. There is always corruption, but culturally, that is not the predominant factor in 1939 England.

In 21st century Ukraine, it is.

And that’s a fact.


30 posted on 07/03/2024 5:59:41 AM PDT by rlmorel (In Today's Democrat America, The $5 Dollar Bill is the New $1 Dollar Bill.)
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To: JonPreston

Close ties to the Biden crime family are not good.


31 posted on 07/03/2024 5:59:48 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (President Trump is a businessman first and a politician second. That's why he's good for America.)
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To: BobL

Of course, being an American and living in the 21st-century United States of America, with its unparalleled levels of corruption, I have no room to lecture on that. In this case, it is my money that is being sent over there, which does give me license to be able to complain about it.


32 posted on 07/03/2024 6:01:22 AM PDT by rlmorel (In Today's Democrat America, The $5 Dollar Bill is the New $1 Dollar Bill.)
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To: JonPreston

Too corrupt for NATO?

Bwahaha—that’s a real knee slapper!


33 posted on 07/03/2024 6:03:17 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: cdcdawg
Too corrupt for NATO? That seems like a high bar to clear.

Concurring bump...yet the US keeps sending them money and material anyway. 🤔

34 posted on 07/03/2024 6:05:52 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: JonPreston
The Russians are home according to their recent vote.

Yeah, and the Easter Bunny is real.

35 posted on 07/03/2024 6:09:56 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: JonPreston

How long before the zeeper “fact checkers” arrive to fact check and wag their meaty little fingers?

Ukraine and Zelensky corrupt? Why never.........


36 posted on 07/03/2024 6:10:26 AM PDT by dforest ( )
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To: dforest
Zeeper Fact Checker


37 posted on 07/03/2024 6:18:04 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: motor_racer

A couple of months ago, our incompetent Secretary of State, Anthony Blinken, declared that Ukraine membership in NATO was inevitable, thereby enraging Putin even further and threatening to escalate the war. Apparently, NATO officials have decided that they don’t want this escalation, and are recognizing that they are losing their war against Russia.


38 posted on 07/03/2024 6:19:09 AM PDT by phil00071
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To: JonPreston

But not too corrupt to be given hundreds of billions of dollars?


39 posted on 07/03/2024 6:24:31 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: JonPreston

The Zeepers here will say that Russia is even more corrupt than the Ukraine.


40 posted on 07/03/2024 6:28:36 AM PDT by Tom Tetroxide
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