Why wasn’t Pence charged?
What a turncoat Mike Pence turned out to be.
a) Trump never pressured Pence to certify alternate (not "fake") slates of electors. He asked Pence to delay certification so the states could investigate ballot fraud.
b) Trump and his team asked if it was possible to have states certify new slates of electors. The states would still have to certify them. But then we would have had two sets of electors and Pence and the House and Senate would have to choose which to accept.
There isn't anything regarding Trump about which these people will not lie.
The Hill writer got it wrong— it is NOT up to the lower court to ‘decide if it merits the immunity”— the immunity is described in detail as being a power the President retains. What the lower court has to decide is whether to dissolve the case BECAUSE the evidence used to make a case was illegal, and to determine whatever else in their case is covered by immunity, and thus-— there can be no furtherance of a prosecution. PERIOD.
What a stupid a@@ writer putting their own spin on the plainly written easy to understand syllabus and Decision and all Concurrences and Dissents therein. Arrogant jerk writer- doesn’t get it— the SCOTUS is not going to review their freaking case- they were responding to a Certoriari writ emergently presented to the Court.
It’s not a crime regardless!
Remember the big stink when he got rid of Comey. Comey was so sure he got Trump when he said .......was a good guy.
Didn’t a year ago they changed the law now so the VP can’t delay the certification of electoral votes?
There was nothing to overturn until January 7th
Tens of thousands and Trump asked Congress and Pence to “stop the steal”.
That was perfectly lawful.
The balloted electors have a duty to submit their votes if they reasonably believe or know their candidate won.
Mere state certification is not sufficient. People responsible for conducting elections might and should lose their jobs if found to be derelict in their duty. Such people might reasonably be thought to be capable of trying to pretend that there were no problems of significance.
There was and is considerable evidence that there was a significant level of election fraud in states as far apart as Arizona, Wisconsin and Georgia and that people running elections in Georgia were not as vigilant and diligent as desirable.
Congress might presume a state certification is valid, but it has the right and the duty to investigate further if circumstances like poor election process design exists.
We know there was election fraud.
We know the election process now allows for rampant fraud and the incentive for such fraud is great when the federal government spend around $40,000/year/voter.
People were right to ask Congress and Pence to carefully examine the vote counts of at least five states.
But that never happened. President Trump never pressured VP Pence to overturn the election. President Trump only wanted the Vice President to do his duty as the President of the Senate and send the elector slates back to the States who cheated.
“Former President Trump has presumptive immunity for pressuring then-Vice President Mike Pence to subvert the results of the presidential election in his favor...”
Lying or stupid statement.
That was not Trump’s request at all. Trump’s request was to investigate, not overturn. Certainly, an honest investigation would have uncovered the winner, not overturned the election.
This applies to the electors:
If you have to stand to get standing to get the due process due under the Constitution, you have a constitutional right to stand.
An “Alternate Slate of Electors” is perfectly legal (not fake) and have been used at least twice. 1867 and 1960 (Kennedy, Hawaii)
“Former President Trump has presumptive immunity for pressuring then-Vice President Mike Pence to subvert the results of the presidential election in his favor by certifying slates of so-called “fake electors” on Jan. 6, 2021, the Supreme Court ruled Monday.”
I am real certain that is not how the decision read. But what would journalism be without spin on the bias.
Presidential elections are important, and they occur across a vast country.
There were many significant reasons to suspect a wide variety of frauds in states far apart as Arizona and Georgia. Persons deeply concerned about this fraud investigated a wide range of legal options, often with the advice of lawyers.
That there was violence in Detroit and DC in 1968 would not have been sufficient cause to hunt down and imprison every black person who openly complained about racial injustice.
For goodness’ sake, Pence was on the ticket.
For pressuring Pence to stop them from overturning the election through vote fraud.
Of course Pence was a coward and helped them legitimize that corrupt piece of sh*t.
Trump was encouraging Pence to PREVENT the election from being overturned, which it was, by Biden, Obama, et al.
Any honest and fair examination of what happened on election night in 2020 will prove this conclusively.
That’s why no court will review the fraud, the results are obvious.
The democrats overturned the election in the middle of the night. Them and their ballot drops.