Posted on 07/01/2024 9:37:45 AM PDT by EnderWiggin1970
The Ukraine war will end in a surrender, not in a negotiated deal. That is my sense of where the war is headed and why the parties cannot negotiate a settlement.
The latest wrinkle in the missing negotiating saga is a declaration in the form of an interview given by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to the Philadelphia Inquirer.
In the interview, Zelensky said there can’t be direct negotiations between Ukraine and Russia but there could be indirect negotiations through a third party. In Zelensky’s proposed scenario, the third party will serve as an intermediary and any deal will only be with the intermediary, not between Russia or Ukraine. Zelensky suggested the UN could act in this role.
However, the Zelensky proposal is a non-starter for many reasons, but the biggest one is that warring states need to directly agree on ending a conflict.
There is no hope of a third party implementing any deal, as the failed Minsk agreements (2014, 2015) proved. Minsk was a hybrid case where the deal was signed by Russia, Ukraine and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE).
Ukraine refused to implement the deal and the OSCE proved toothless and unwilling to try and enforce the Minsk accords. The deal had political backing from Germany and France, although neither was a signatory nor legally obliged in any manner to support the resulting deal.
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Oh F off with your Biden accusations you fake phoney fraud.
What despicable creeps you Russia lovers are, accusing Trump supporters of being Biden supporters.
Pure Putin propaganda tactics.
Mr. Zelenskyy needs to get a powerful bomb, coat it with radio active rods from a nuke plant making a dirty nuke bomb. Use a USA/UK rocket and hit the Kremlin, targeting the offices of Putin. The CIA will help him target the thing. Kill Putin and his staff. Maybe another dirty bomb on Crimea naval base too.
Kremlin gone, Putin Gone, War over and a terrified Russia will pull out and give Ukraine the victory. The Kremlin will be poisoned space for a century. Ukraine will be a hub of NATO!
Then Israel can use a dirty bomb on Gaza too.
Mr. Zelinsky hails from the country that suffered Chernobyl. His own country men would kill him instantly.
US Army Europe used o bus the Chernobyl kids around to DOD Schools. Horrific.
Grow up FRiend. You have been here since 97 and act like a leftist, not a Trump supporter.
You might have more credibility if you didn’t call me a Biden supporter.
“What despicable creeps you Russia lovers are, accusing Trump supporters of being Biden supporters.”
Sit down.
The above is from your own post.
This article is BS.
I appologize.
That was very nice of you thank you. You also deserve respect as a long time Freeper.
And which of our wars included a foreign nation invading our nation and occupying 1/5 of our land mass?
As to the 1864 American election - last I checked, more than a third of the supposed nation wasn’t even included in that election... so there’s that...
So there still was an election, correct?
Thanx. FR is the best news and discussion forum in the Wild wild West! I saw how long you have on FR, and knew we are probably more like minded than not.
Ditto.
Another good example is post WW2 Germany. So many alpha males died in the war then this period was followed by 2 generations of diluted alpha male DNA.
And today Germany is overrun by Middle Eastern men bent on destroying German culture and raping/molesting their women. All being accomplished w little opposition from the male German population.
It is just in our interest to stop Putin, as it would have been to stop Hitler, after he started invading others.
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