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1 posted on 06/27/2024 6:34:56 AM PDT by Heartlander
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To: Heartlander

Just a horrible decision.


2 posted on 06/27/2024 6:42:47 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim (C)
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To: Heartlander

and now you know how the nazis came to power


3 posted on 06/27/2024 6:51:30 AM PDT by joshua c
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To: Heartlander
The more I read about this case, the more I'm convinced it was a terrible legal case to bring in the first place. What made it such a ludicrous case was that the plaintiffs were third parties that would have an enormous burden of proof in any civil lawsuit. And the FIRST burden of proof (which was the only point of contention in this particular Supreme Court decision) was that they'd have to demonstrate that they were actually harmed by the defendant's actions even though the defendant never acted directly against them.

Even Alito's dissent in the case exposed the crippling flaw that should have gotten the case thrown out of any courtroom in the nation (the bold text is my emphasis):

The plaintiffs claim standing based on the "direct censorship" of their own speech as well as their "right to listen" to others who faced social-media censorship. Notably, both theories depend on the platform's actions -- yet the plaintiffs do not seek to enjoin the platforms from restricting any posts or accounts.

In other words ...

If there was any legally actionable conduct in this case, then one of the following two courses of action would be required:

1. The plaintiffs in the case sue FACEBOOK (not the U.S. government) for blocking content.

2. Facebook sues the U.S. government for censoring its content.

The Supreme Court ruled (correctly, in my opinion) that since the U.S. government never acted directly against the plaintiffs, these plaintiffs have no standing to take direct legal action against it.

4 posted on 06/27/2024 6:53:25 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (“Ain't it funny how the night moves … when you just don't seem to have as much to lose.”)
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To: Heartlander
Remember in civics class when they taught you the uproar over this law brought down John Adams?

FIFTH CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES: at the Second Session,

Begun and held at the city of Philadelphia, in the state of Pennsylvania, on Monday, the thirteenth of November, one thousand seven hundred and ninety-seven.

An Act in Addition to the Act, Entitled "An Act for the Punishment of Certain Crimes Against the United States."

SECTION 1. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, That if any persons shall unlawfully combine or conspire together, with intent to oppose any measure or measures of the government of the United States, which are or shall be directed by proper authority, or to impede the operation of any law of the United States, or to intimidate or prevent any person holding a place or office in or under the government of the United States, from undertaking, performing or executing his trust or duty, and if any person or persons, with intent as aforesaid, shall counsel, advise or attempt to procure any insurrection, riot, unlawful assembly, or combination, whether such conspiracy, threatening, counsel, advice, or attempt shall have the proposed effect or not, he or they shall be deemed guilty of a high misdemeanor, and on conviction, before any court of the United States having jurisdiction thereof, shall be punished by a fine not exceeding five thousand dollars, and by imprisonment during a term not less than six months nor exceeding five years; and further, at the discretion of the court may be holden to find sureties for his good behaviour in such sum, and for such time, as the said court may direct.

SEC. 2. And be it farther enacted, That if any person shall write, print, utter or publish, or shall cause or procure to be written, printed, uttered or published, or shall knowingly and willingly assist or aid in writing, printing, uttering or publishing any false, scandalous and malicious writing or writings against the government of the United States, or either house of the Congress of the United States, or the President of the United States, with intent to defame the said government, or either house of the said Congress, or the said President, or to bring them, or either of them, into contempt or disrepute; or to excite against them, or either or any of them, the hatred of the good people of the United States, or to stir up sedition within the United States, or to excite any unlawful combinations therein, for opposing or resisting any law of the United States, or any act of the President of the United States, done in pursuance of any such law, or of the powers in him vested by the constitution of the United States, or to resist, oppose, or defeat any such law or act, or to aid, encourage or abet any hostile designs of any foreign nation against United States, their people or government, then such person, being thereof convicted before any court of the United States having jurisdiction thereof, shall be punished by a fine not exceeding two thousand dollars, and by imprisonment not exceeding two years.

SEC. 3. And be it further enacted and declared, That if any person shall be prosecuted under this act, for the writing or publishing any libel aforesaid, it shall be lawful for the defendant, upon the trial of the cause, to give in evidence in his defence, the truth of the matter contained in publication charged as a libel. And the jury who shall try the cause, shall have a right to determine the law and the fact, under the direction of the court, as in other cases.

SEC. 4. And be it further enacted, That this act shall continue and be in force until the third day of March, one thousand eight hundred and one, and no longer: Provided, that the expiration of the act shall not prevent or defeat a prosecution and punishment of any offence against the law, during the time it shall be in force.

Jonathan Dayton, Speaker of the House of Representatives.

Theodore Sedgwick, President of the Senate pro tempore.

I Certify that this Act did originate in the Senate.

Attest, Sam. A. Otis, Secretary

APPROVED, July 14, 1798

John Adams

President of the United States.

5 posted on 06/27/2024 6:58:54 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath
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To: Heartlander

The old “lacks standing” dodge.


8 posted on 06/27/2024 7:31:28 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: Heartlander

Et tu, Amy?


9 posted on 06/27/2024 8:30:06 AM PDT by Thorium90
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