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To: shadowlands1960
Military alliances usually result as a reaction to the ambitions of neighbors... except those normal precautions states take in relation to each other.

Right, which is why Finland joined NATO, realizing that its neutrality agreements with Russia were not worth the paper they were written on.

List of treaties Putin violated by invading Ukraine:

UN Charter 1945

Nuclear NPT 1970

Helsinki Accords 1975

Belovezha Accords 91–92

Budapest Memo 94

Black Sea Fleet Treaty 97

Friendship Treaty 98

Treaty on Azov Sea & Kerch Strait 03 Border treaty 03

Karkiv pact 10

Putin even broke a treaty he personally signed with Ukraine, the 2003 “Treaty Between the Russian Federation and Ukraine on the Russian–Ukrainian State Border”. It set Ukraine’s borders as they were in 1991 & was lodged with the UN.

132 posted on 06/23/2024 2:07:13 PM PDT by tlozo ( Trump: "As everyone agrees, Ukraine Survival and Strength...is also important to us!" )
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To: tlozo

Devil is in the details... My point was you have to have a substantial reason (like ‘the son of the Revolution’) to maintain a global alliance. Not phantom fears.


135 posted on 06/23/2024 2:10:28 PM PDT by shadowlands1960 (We live in a world of intolerance masked as tolerance. RUSH LIMBAUGH)
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To: tlozo

Not to be forgotten are the MINSK DECEPTIONS I & II, and the ISTANBUL Concessions. Merkel stated all those negotiations and agreements were just to trick the Russians.

When Trust is destroyed, there are Wars. If NATO wants to fight a defensive war in Russia that puts all Europe and maybe the US too on the proverbial hot seat... radiation.

The people of Russia are primed and want blood - just as the west has be propogandized by it’s leaders, the Russian people see the war firsthand and they are fired up today.

Those Global Hawks won’t be making their rounds much longer after today. The bases they fly from are fair game under Biden’s rules of engagement hitting bases in Russia.

There goes the neighborhood.


185 posted on 06/23/2024 8:22:27 PM PDT by Jumper
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