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To: tlozo

Military alliances usually result as a reaction to the ambitions of neighbors... think of the alliances formed against Bonaparte. Since the fall of the USSR I’ve seen no coherent rationale to justify maintaining an alliance against the Russian Federation.... except those normal precautions states take in relation to each other. Certainly nothing that justifies a wealth destroying continental alliance.


118 posted on 06/23/2024 1:50:02 PM PDT by shadowlands1960 (We live in a world of intolerance masked as tolerance. RUSH LIMBAUGH)
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To: shadowlands1960

The continental alliance was not “wealth destroying”, lol.

@1% of gdp defense expenditures were the norm. Much to Trumps disgust. Until Ukraine.


124 posted on 06/23/2024 1:55:21 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: shadowlands1960
Military alliances usually result as a reaction to the ambitions of neighbors... except those normal precautions states take in relation to each other.

Right, which is why Finland joined NATO, realizing that its neutrality agreements with Russia were not worth the paper they were written on.

List of treaties Putin violated by invading Ukraine:

UN Charter 1945

Nuclear NPT 1970

Helsinki Accords 1975

Belovezha Accords 91–92

Budapest Memo 94

Black Sea Fleet Treaty 97

Friendship Treaty 98

Treaty on Azov Sea & Kerch Strait 03 Border treaty 03

Karkiv pact 10

Putin even broke a treaty he personally signed with Ukraine, the 2003 “Treaty Between the Russian Federation and Ukraine on the Russian–Ukrainian State Border”. It set Ukraine’s borders as they were in 1991 & was lodged with the UN.

132 posted on 06/23/2024 2:07:13 PM PDT by tlozo ( Trump: "As everyone agrees, Ukraine Survival and Strength...is also important to us!" )
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