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Why The Left Hates It When You Point Out We’re ‘A Republic, Not A Democracy’
The Federalist ^ | 06/17/24 | David Harsanyi

Posted on 06/17/2024 8:46:54 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

For as long as I can remember, the left has been sneering at anyone who points out that the United States is a republic, not a democracy. They find the notion almost as unsophisticated and fascistic as flying a revolutionary-era flag.

Even some people I admire dismiss the democracy/republic debate as a semantic distraction. They shouldn’t.

The other day, CNN’s Donie O’Sullivan tried to make Trump fans who repeat this factual contention look like a bunch of dumb, lockstepping authoritarians. To explain the problem, CNN even recruited “democracy” expert Anne Applebaum, who noted that, “America is a democracy. It was founded as a democracy … the word ‘democracy’ and the word ‘republic’ have often been used interchangeably. There isn’t a meaningful difference between them …”

Sure there is.

Ask the contemporary leftists who target virtually every protection we have against mob rule in the name of “democracy” — attacking the Supreme Court, the Electoral College, federalism, the filibuster, the Senate, and even the existence of states. They understand the difference, even if just intuitively.

Ask leftists who treat the “popular vote,” not as a wishcasting cope, but as means of legitimizing presidential elections. Those who want a few big states ruling the nation via a direct federal democracy are not interested in an American “republic.”

Blunting the federal government’s power over states and the state’s power over individuals is an indispensable way to ensure a diverse people in a huge nation can govern themselves and live freely. The “save democracy” types who refer to these long-standing federalist institutions as “minority rule” do not view “democracy” and a constitutional republic as interchangeable concepts.

Neither do smaller blue-state governors who sign a national vote compact that not only dilutes their state’s power but circumvents the Constitution. They love a direct democracy. A constitutional republic? Not so much.

When writers at The Atlantic, where Applebaum is a contributor, talk about “The Democrats’ Last Chance to Save Democracy,” they aren’t lamenting Biden’s unprecedented executive abuse, but the “democratic deficits in the Senate and the Electoral College” — as if these institutions weren’t specifically instituted to diffuse centralized control. They know the difference.

Democrats who want to “expand” the Supreme Court for failing to follow democratic trends, don’t care about the “republic.” After all, many of the high court’s most historic decisions, including Dred Scott and Plessy, cut the legs out from under “democracy.”

Or take the so-called moderate Democrats who want to get rid of the filibuster or use the slimmest of fleeting majorities to shove through massive, generational federal “reforms” without any national consensus — Obamacare or The Deficit Reduction Act [sic]. They’re aware that “reforms” will overturn hundreds of state and local laws. They want local minorities subordinate to the whims and vagaries of national majorities.

Then again, the more “democracy” we have, the more demagoguery thrives. Of course they’re fans.

As it turns out, according to CNN a number of Trump supporters also understand the distinction even if they are unable to articulate it in poli-scientific terms. 

Then again, if O’Sullivan wants to dunk on them, maybe he should take a civics refresher himself.  “There is, of course, a legitimate debate to be had on what form of democracy we have here in the United States — direct democracy, representative democracy, in fact, constitutional republic, which you heard people mentioned in that piece, that is a form of democracy,” the CNN host explained.

There is, “of course,” zero “legitimate debate discussion” to be had over whether we are a “direct democracy.” Not today, nor ever. “Democracy” isn’t even mentioned anywhere in any founding document, much less a direct one. None of the framers entertained any notions about majoritarianism or federal power that would even loosely comport the ones now embraced by the left.

People will often tell me that, sure, we might be a republic, but we also have “democratic institutions.” Of course we do. We also have numerous nondemocratic institutions. The Bill of Rights, for instance, is largely concerned with protecting individuals from state and the mob. The insistence that we only use “democracy” is meant to corrode the importance and acceptance of those countermajoritarian rules and traditions.

“[F]or centuries,” insists O’Sullivan (italics mine), “America has celebrated its democracy,” before playing clips of Ronald Reagan and others praising the notion of “democracy.”

Indeed, the word “democracy” — from “demos,” the people — has been used as a shorthand for self-rule since before Pericles. In the past, we’ve used it to convey respect for a set of liberal ideas about liberties and rights, as well as self-determination. I’m sure I’ve used it in that way, too. Most Americans probably comprehend the notion of “democracy” in the same, vague context.

These days, though, a bunch of illiberal progressives (and others) have taken universal notions that once fell under the umbrella of “democracy” and cynically distorted them to champion a hypermajoritarian outlook.  It’s no accident the people who demand you call us a “democracy” also champion the idea that 50.1 percent of the country should be empowered to lord over the economic, religious, cultural, and political decisions of 49.9 percent.

It’s the point. 


David Harsanyi is a senior editor at The Federalist, a nationally syndicated columnist, a Happy Warrior columnist at National Review, and author of five books—the most recent, Eurotrash: Why America Must Reject the Failed Ideas of a Dying Continent.


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To: Olog-hai

That is one aspect I have no doubt Wilson hated.


If someone could go back in time and run his younger father over with a buggy, we’d all be in much better shape.

He’s one of the most damaging Presidents ever.


81 posted on 06/18/2024 8:50:48 AM PDT by nesnah (Infringe - act so as to limit or undermine [something]; encroach on)
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To: rlmorel
"We were given a Republic, and a damn well thought out one, too. But our Republic was made for a moral and religious people, especially those leading it, and we are not that. When it became clear that there were no penalties for violating the Constitution, it became open season on our liberty, and here we are."

Well stated.

82 posted on 06/18/2024 9:04:01 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (USA Birth Certificate - 1787. Death Certificate - 2021? )
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To: nesnah

If his line went extinct, the god of this world simply would have chosen another.


83 posted on 06/18/2024 9:20:51 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: rlmorel
Well, godless leftism does go back to the nineteenth century. And given what the communists thought of the USA, they always had their sights on it:
In America, where a democratic constitution has already been established, the communists must make the common cause with the party that will turn this constitution against the bourgeoisie and use it in the interests of the proletariat …

The Principles of Communism, 1847
There was definitely a perception back then that the US Constitution was somehow “democratic”—this was probably a notion that was promulgated by the French Revolution, and certainly it looked that way compared to European national governments. Of course, things did not turn democratic in a de jure sense until constitutional amendments such as the 16th and 17th came along, the former instituting the second plank of communism i.e. “(a) heavy progressive or graduated income tax”.
84 posted on 06/18/2024 9:30:34 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

Thank you.

So, he was comfortable with dictatorship to do “good.” What was his idea of good? I’m sure much could be written. Here’s one tidbit from History.com:

“During Wilson’s presidency, he allowed his cabinet to segregate the Treasury, the Post Office, the Bureau of Engraving and Printing, the Navy, the Interior, the Marine Hospital, the War Department and the Government Printing Office. This meant creating separate offices, lunchrooms, bathrooms and other facilities for white and Black workers. It also meant dismissing Black supervisors, cutting off Black employees’ access to promotions and better-paying jobs and reserving those jobs for white people.

By the way, History.com mentions segregation by southerners, but not segregation by Democrats. When it comes to “systemic racism,” Democrats are very prominent in the design, maintenance, and defense of the systems in question. Segregation being just one example.


85 posted on 06/18/2024 9:34:36 AM PDT by ChessExpert (Required for informed consent: "We have a new, experimental vaccine.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Get over yo bad self. It’s a constitutional democratic republic.


86 posted on 06/18/2024 9:47:27 AM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: nickcarraway

I agree that you are correct by definition. Democracy as a general descriptive has been used to describe various forms of government structure for centuries: direct, representative, republican, constitutional monarchy, etc.. Each of those has its own validity & argument in favor. Ours has always been a Republican & representative form of democracy. The Constitution, Bill of Rights, English Common Law traditions, electoral college, checks & balances, separated branches & federal/state/local divisions were all established to prevent tyrannical rule by one man or by a temporary electoral majority.

Though, It is worth pointing out that the collective definition of Democracy (i.e. government of a free people) gets purposely comingled by Democrats with the more specific definition of direct democracy (i.e. majority rule with no constitution) for a very useful reason. The fact that they claim to have won a majority of the popular vote (electoral fraud & the fact that we dont use a direct popular vote, not withstanding) has apparently convinced them that they will forever receive popular majorities. The fact that they have lost the Constitutionally proscribed method of election matters less than their ego & drive for power. So they go about trying to say that we are a democracy, that direct, popular majorities are supposed to rule & that the our Constitutionally republican processes are illegitimate.

It’s like everything else. It’s bait & switch. Perhaps their assumption that they will truly & forever be beneficiaries of a popular majority is most annoying. Nothing is permanent 😉


87 posted on 06/18/2024 3:59:35 PM PDT by redheadedshannon ( )
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To: Trinity5
A square is not a type of rectangle. Especially when the definition of a rectangle specifically states a square isn't a rectangle?

And where did you pull that definition from? Almost every definition of rectangle I've seen does not specifically exclude squares.

Here's a different analogy for you:
Democracy is like 'trees'. There's lots of trees, but surely a pine and a cedar are not identical?

Or:
Whisky. Every whisky is whiskey, but would you argue that a Kentucky bourbon is the same as Laphroaig 10-yr?
88 posted on 06/22/2024 6:59:28 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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