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To: tlozo
We are the ones that started aiming them at the USSR, and that was justified. But when the USSR collapsed that was the time to bring Russia into our fold, not keep them ostracized on the outside. If you keep directing animosity at another nation, you leave them little choice but to accept that these people are enemies and nothing will change that.

If someone is belligerent to you, you will react accordingly to them in the same manner.

Or put another way, you will reap what you sow. If you sow hate you will reap hate in return.

31 posted on 06/17/2024 6:42:12 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong
USSR collapsed that was the time to bring Russia into our fold, not keep them ostracized on the outside

Yup, no US administration ever tried working with Putin. Okay

Read Putin's early mafia like history.

In 1990, Putin was a loser who had lost his job as a KGB agent in Germany. A mediocre with no future. He met with corrupt politicians in St. Petersburg and one by one eliminated them.

On 17 February 2000, Putin met with Sobchak and urged him to travel to Kaliningrad to support his election campaign. Sobchak traveled there, accompanied by two assistants who also served as his bodyguards. On 20 February 2000, Sobchak died suddenly in the town of Svetlogorsk in Kaliningrad Oblast. The initial suspected cause of death was a heart attack, but the findings of two medical experts were contradictory. A criminal investigation of Sobchak's death as a possible "premeditated murder with aggravating circumstances" was opened only on 6 May 2000, more than two months later. After three months, the investigation was closed without a finding. The Democratic Union party led by Valeria Novodvorskaya made an official statement that not only Sobchak, but also two of his aides had heart attacks simultaneously, which indicated poisoning.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatoly_Sobchak

32 posted on 06/17/2024 7:05:52 AM PDT by tlozo ( Trump: "As everyone agrees, Ukraine Survival and Strength...is also important to us!" )
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