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To: Robert DeLong
USSR collapsed that was the time to bring Russia into our fold, not keep them ostracized on the outside

Yup, no US administration ever tried working with Putin. Okay

Read Putin's early mafia like history.

In 1990, Putin was a loser who had lost his job as a KGB agent in Germany. A mediocre with no future. He met with corrupt politicians in St. Petersburg and one by one eliminated them.

On 17 February 2000, Putin met with Sobchak and urged him to travel to Kaliningrad to support his election campaign. Sobchak traveled there, accompanied by two assistants who also served as his bodyguards. On 20 February 2000, Sobchak died suddenly in the town of Svetlogorsk in Kaliningrad Oblast. The initial suspected cause of death was a heart attack, but the findings of two medical experts were contradictory. A criminal investigation of Sobchak's death as a possible "premeditated murder with aggravating circumstances" was opened only on 6 May 2000, more than two months later. After three months, the investigation was closed without a finding. The Democratic Union party led by Valeria Novodvorskaya made an official statement that not only Sobchak, but also two of his aides had heart attacks simultaneously, which indicated poisoning.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatoly_Sobchak

32 posted on 06/17/2024 7:05:52 AM PDT by tlozo ( Trump: "As everyone agrees, Ukraine Survival and Strength...is also important to us!" )
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To: tlozo
You speak out of both sides of your mouth, and each side contradicts the other. Out of one side he is a cunning dangerous person, while the other side says that he is an incompetent loser.

Yet you wonder why people dismiss you. It's because you apparently can't make up your mind as to how to portray Putin.

Putin is no angel, but when you continue to tell falsehoods about him, all you accomplish is to make him more defensive

No, there has been no real attempt to work with him. Putin even expressed to join NATO, because Russia desired to become part of Europe & work in tandem wit them, instead of being the foe that the USSR was.

After all, the U.S. did that for Germany, Japan, & Italy who were arrayed against the Allied nations, while the USSR was part of the Allied nations and who contributed a lot in the victory of WWII. But refused to bring in Russia after the fall of the USSR.

Are you a descendant of either the Hatfield or McCcoy families?

34 posted on 06/17/2024 7:28:36 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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