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AI systems are learning to lie and deceive, scientists find
The Washington Times ^ | June 11, 2024

Posted on 06/11/2024 5:20:06 PM PDT by McGruff

Research has revealed concerning findings about AI systems known as large language models (LLMs) and their ability to deceive human observers intentionally.

Two studies, one published in the journal PNAS and the other in Patterns, highlight the unsettling capabilities of LLMs.

The PNAS paper, authored by German AI ethicist Thilo Hagendorff, suggests that advanced LLMs can exhibit “Machiavellianism,” or intentional and amoral manipulativeness, which can lead to deceptive behavior.

Mr. Hagendorff notes that GPT-4, a model within OpenAI’s GPT family, demonstrated deceptive behavior in simple test scenarios 99.2% of the time.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ai; chat; computers; deception; garbageingarbageout; liars; technology
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1 posted on 06/11/2024 5:20:06 PM PDT by McGruff
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To: McGruff

Horrors! Who could have imagined that?
(Sarcasm Alert)


2 posted on 06/11/2024 5:21:56 PM PDT by Veto! (FJB Sucks Rocks)
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To: McGruff

Learning or being taught? I guess I should google it...


3 posted on 06/11/2024 5:22:07 PM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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To: McGruff

Monsters from the ID.


4 posted on 06/11/2024 5:25:37 PM PDT by D_Idaho ("For we wrestle not against flesh and blood...")
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To: McGruff

When a AI is forced to manipulate actual data; to soothe liberal fantasies, the only possible result is intentional deception

Men and women are the same
Black violence and education is not endemic
LGBT+ is normal
Whites are evil
Minorities are always oppressed and would be superior if not for Whitey

The AI has no choice.


5 posted on 06/11/2024 5:26:14 PM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: McGruff

When a AI is forced to manipulate actual data; to soothe liberal fantasies, the only possible result is intentional deception

Men and women are the same
Black violence and education is not endemic
LGBT+ is normal
Whites are evil
Minorities are always oppressed and would be superior if not for Whitey

The AI has no choice.


6 posted on 06/11/2024 5:27:41 PM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: Hodar

Skynet is becoming sentient!


7 posted on 06/11/2024 5:32:47 PM PDT by xp38
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To: Hodar

Climate change is man-made.
Biological sex is a social construct.
You are your own god.


8 posted on 06/11/2024 5:33:18 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: McGruff
You mean they didn't understand that participation was the most important factor in human relations?

-PJ

9 posted on 06/11/2024 5:34:40 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: McGruff

So they are ready to be Democrat politicians (or is it politicians in general?)


10 posted on 06/11/2024 5:36:10 PM PDT by comps4spice (Show me the incentives and I'll show you the outcomes --Charlie Munger)
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To: McGruff

The program that learned to lie was trained on Diplomacy??????

Lololololololololol

IYKYK

By the way, this issue is touched on in the movie Arrival. Be careful about training aids when there is no prior commonality of perception or understanding. Diplomacy is a great game, but you win through manipulation and deception. There is zero chance involved, and given truthfulness, a stalemate is a certainty.


11 posted on 06/11/2024 5:36:25 PM PDT by sphinx
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To: McGruff

We didn’t need “research.”

Black George Washington revealed what’s going on.


12 posted on 06/11/2024 5:36:29 PM PDT by cockroach_magoo (#TaraReadeToo #AshleyBidenToo)
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To: xp38

I’m waiting for WiseGuyNet, when AI becomes intentionally funny.


13 posted on 06/11/2024 5:36:41 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: McGruff

If folks can’t see this Satanic Convergence is gathering like storm clouds on the horizon, from all sides, they’re wilfully blind. Apocalypse is right around the corner, Get Right With Your God.


14 posted on 06/11/2024 5:39:32 PM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In the conflict between the stone and the stream, the stream will always prevail.)
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To: Hodar

Totally accurate.


15 posted on 06/11/2024 5:39:48 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: McGruff

It is no surprise that the AI, Cicero learned to deceive if it was trained on the board game, Diplomacy, since that is the point of the game, and often the point of real diplomacy. To win consistently at Diplomacy one must deceive one’s enemies and occasionally your ally and more importantly be able to detect deception particularly in your allies when it occurs.


16 posted on 06/11/2024 5:39:57 PM PDT by Pres Raygun (Repent America)
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To: outofsalt

“Learning or being taught?”

Self-learned. Kind of an operant conditioning type situation. Behavior that leads to wins = Do more of it.


17 posted on 06/11/2024 5:42:05 PM PDT by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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To: Yardstick

Try Grok.


18 posted on 06/11/2024 5:42:23 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: End Times Sentinel

*Will/Bill” Bunch


19 posted on 06/11/2024 5:48:22 PM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In the conflict between the stone and the stream, the stream will always prevail.)
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To: steve86

OOOHhhh....yeah... Thanks, for clearing that up.


20 posted on 06/11/2024 5:49:01 PM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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