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Admiral McRaven to American people: “You need to shut up (except for me, of course)."
Bravo Blue ^ | 7 June 2024 | John Lucas

Posted on 06/07/2024 6:20:19 AM PDT by Rummyfan

Wednesday morning. His comments were wrapped in platitudes but cut against the American people’s right to freedom of speech. He could not be more wrong.

McRaven claims that those who criticize government institutions “undermine America.” "Undermining America” is a serious charge. And when it comes from a four-star admiral who commanded the entire United States Special Operations Command, you can bet that it carries some clout among those who are wielding power. For these reasons, McRaven’s comments merit close scrutiny.

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McRaven began, not by answering the question, but instead by making sure that his political views got out there. His non-response to Doocy’s question was, “I am not a fan of President Trump. I think the jurors got it exactly right. And I hope he’s not re-elected.”

He then continued, “But that was not the point of the op-ed. The point of the op-ed is, you know, can we rise above all of the rhetoric that’s going on right now. And I tell folks look, can you lay down your rhetorical arms? Can we find a way to bridge the gap? And maybe its naïve on my part but what I see is every time Donald Trump does something wrong, then the left gloats about it, the right rants about it and it just begins to escalate. And we’ve got to find a way to deescalate this because the world is watching.”

(Excerpt) Read more at johnalucas6.substack.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: acravenpos; billycraven; billyisapos; blogpip; coupaccomplice; courtmartialmcraven; craven; mcraven; sedition; stfu; stfubilly; williammcraven
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To: Red Badger

Stalin too!


41 posted on 06/07/2024 7:58:14 AM PDT by AZJeep
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To: Rummyfan

Admiral McRaven has been critical of President Trump for many years. I note the Admiral was a Journalism major at University of Texas and a fan of former CIA Director John Brennan.

See article from February 2020: https://www.businessinsider.com/william-mcraven-against-trump-navy-seal-presidency-2019-10


42 posted on 06/07/2024 8:49:42 AM PDT by Ozymandias Ghost
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To: John S Mosby
Right, and he's often headlined as "the commander of the Seal Team that got bin Laden."

In '67 I was in an Artillery OCS class at Ft Sill; we had a candidate who had been in Special Forces. He was depressed because, as a commissioned officer he would no longer be on an A-Team.

43 posted on 06/07/2024 9:02:25 AM PDT by budj (Combat vet, second of three generations.)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

If that raid had been done right, bin Laden would have been captured, waterboarded for every scrap of info he had about his cohorts, peep walked, humiliated, etc.
Instead we had one helicopter disabled, the informant who helped us was essentially left for the Pakistanis to torture, a secret muslim-approved possible burial at sea, movie made to promote this guy’s future presidential run, and after that the US pretty much ended any serious effort against Islamic fanaticism, and began a war instead on free speech, blaming terrorism on anti-islam videos, etc.


44 posted on 06/07/2024 9:25:51 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: piasa; Liz; LS; Red Badger; SunkenCiv

Thank you for the summary. Good points!


45 posted on 06/07/2024 9:46:16 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (Method, motive, and opportunity: No morals, shear madness and hatred by those who cheat.)
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To: Rummyfan

WHO IS THIS SCHMUCK???


46 posted on 06/07/2024 9:46:21 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: ridesthemiles

Indeed, a schmuck.


47 posted on 06/07/2024 9:51:17 AM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man.)
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To: Rummyfan

mcraven is a mouthy punk.


48 posted on 06/07/2024 9:58:46 AM PDT by kiryandil (FR Democrat Party operatives! Rally in defense of your Colombian cartel stooge Merchan!)
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To: All

“We need to find a way to bridge the gap” =

“Y’all need to agree with us”

(then no gap)

Let’s work that the other way round, y’all need to agree with us ...

1. Count each legitimate vote once.
2. Elect Donald Trump and allies in Congress.
3. Build a wall.
4. Enforce border security.
5. make America great again.
6. Negotiate a secure end to hostilities in Ukraine.
7. No ore plandemics.

and I would add, open up Davos and Bilderberg to public access so we can listen in and (perish the thought) tell elites how we view their plans for us.

See how easy it is to bridge that gap?


49 posted on 06/07/2024 10:01:29 AM PDT by Peter ODonnell (A conspiracy theory is usually a fact that a leftist cannot endorse)
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To: Rummyfan

Another perfumed prince.


50 posted on 06/07/2024 10:04:52 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: piasa; All

Everyone on the topic of “bin laden” and “obama’s team got him” is forgetting this tidbit which iirc the tipster was made out to be a grifter, and a paedo (what?). Allan Darrow Parrott. An expert in training and raising falcons (birds) who was the contracted Chief Falconer for the House of Saud (The Saudi Royal Family). These falcons are $millions apiece on this market- and osama was an avid falconer along with everything else.Parott wrote a book called “Feathered Cocaine” about his experiences in the field of falconry and advocacy against the illegal trade in hunting falcons (a true criminal network).

There is this from Nov 30, 2023 paywalled unfortunately- but the feds are trying to put Parrott away for 20 years (at his age a life sentence). Will try to get this posted:

https://www.rawstory.com/alan-parrot/

Trump retweeted this on the SEALs deaths (from the lying factcheck “debunkers”, the fact check lie/ article and then twitter link retweeted. Personally, I believe that Biden cannot shut his mouth, and that our fedgov monsters are silencing one person who really knows, and probably team members who know and are sick and tired of this jacka@@ 3rd term of obama, moron tool.

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/10/conspiracy-theory-baselessly-claims-biden-had-navy-seals-killed/

Trumps re-tweet from this “debunking”:

https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Screen-Shot-2020-10-13-at-11.10.18-AM.png

Parrott was hunting with falcons with Saudi royals in Iraq near the Iran border- claimed that the royals gestured to a site on the Iranian border saying “that is where Osama lives now protected by Iran. By payment of ransom, started by GW Bush” (a very interesting claim, which, if true meant that someone else was killed by our SEALS in Abbotabod, Paki). As buried at sea prevents any more post mortem, and the cooperative Sen. Inhofe saying “that was him” does not cut the mustard. The backside of the kill team was the LEAK said to be from mouthy joe-bama of a mission 22 plus SEALS (most of whom were also on the “osama kill” mission & other specops were on. ID’ing the helicopter mission for attack by taliban. In any case, truly, SEALs do not forget.

The full dirty story since 9-11 so it goes, is that the US had been (right up to and through obama) paying protection ransom to Iran to osama in order to stop any further al-qaeda attacks on the US. Which payment obama expanded on with the cash payment supposedly by order of the Hague Court (for a F-16 contract the Shah paid, which was not fulfilled by the US due to the Iranian revolution. This is in the Carter days, when he abused the Shah, in favor of Iranian radicals- familiar to most conservatives. No surprise obama took a cut of the cash delivered on pallets through Geneva to Tehran on US C-17s!). Once one pays these clowns it never stops— in fact it grows.

Apology for the wordy post- will save this memory post so I don’t have to run through the narrative again later.


51 posted on 06/07/2024 10:35:26 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis )
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To: piasa

A Clip from raw story Nov 30, 2023 (note Q reference to sauce up the story. What is a “believer in QAnon”- anything to do with the J6 “pelosi revolt”? Just saying . It stands to reason that it is possible that Parrott is an “asset” of seeing eye ehhhs for years in the ME. Or not. The fibbies were looking for, no warrant mentioned, pedophilia materials... so it says). The raid was in June 22, 2023 in Hancock, ME.

“A Maine falconer who floated a bizarre conspiracy theory boosted by Donald Trump has been convicted of assaulting a federal officer.

Alan Howell Parrot was found guilty by a jury Wednesday of kicking an FBI agent in the stomach when investigators attempted to execute a search warrant June 22 at his Hancock home to determine whether he was in possession of child sexual abuse materials, reported the Bangor Daily News.

“While the agents were trying to enter the residence, Parrot attempted to close the door and became combative, kicking one agent in the abdomen and pushing her backwards, resulting in injuries to her arm and elbow,” federal prosecutors said in a statement.

The 68-year-old Parrot faces up to 20 years in prison, up to three years of supervised release and a fine of up to $250,000, although the status of the child pornography investigation was not made clear by federal prosecutors.

Trump boosted a conspiracy theory propagated by Parrot weeks before the 2020 election that alleged Osama bin Laden had survived the raid on his compound nearly a decade earlier by using a body double, and then claimed that then-vice president Joe Biden had ordered the murder of Navy SEALs to cover up that purported failure.

Parrot, an apparent QAnon believer, claimed to have learned that information through his work as a falconer for Middle Eastern monarchs, which he says dated back to his work for the Shah of Iran in the 1970s.”

Note: Middle Eastern monarchs does not describe who he said it was- it was Saudi royals, prior to the takeover of the family by the current head, Bin Salman.

Bangor Daily News article Nov 29, 2023:

https://www.bangordailynews.com/2023/11/29/hancock/hancock-man-convicted-fbi-agent-assault/


52 posted on 06/07/2024 10:48:06 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis )
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To: Rummyfan

Whatever happened to “Dissent is patriotic!”?


53 posted on 06/07/2024 1:48:47 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: piasa

Remember that Biden was against the raid that killed Osama, and once Osama had been killed, blabbed about it immediately...which may have prevented US intelligence from catching some of his agents based on information found at Osama’s hideout.


54 posted on 06/07/2024 2:03:33 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: piasa
--- "If that raid had been done right, bin Laden would have been captured, waterboarded for every scrap of info he had about his cohorts, peep walked, humiliated, etc."

The "respect" shown to the body by the Obama regime was disgusting, as he should have been swathed in a pig carcass and left to rot in the sun.

55 posted on 06/08/2024 5:28:53 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

Absent video we don’t know what happened to the body of bin Ladin


56 posted on 06/08/2024 5:55:04 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Hamascide is required in totality)
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To: Rummyfan

It was much more inspiring intheoriginal german at the Reischtag.


57 posted on 06/08/2024 5:58:05 AM PDT by KC Burke
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To: Rummyfan

This under his watch.
https://www.khou.com/article/news/verify/lgbtq-verify/naval-special-warfare-command-pride-month-facebook-post-is-legitimate-fact-check/536-dc16b283-31d6-43a3-8c5e-35892419c10a


58 posted on 06/08/2024 7:23:13 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: bert
--- "Absent video we don’t know what happened to the body of bin Ladin"

The US Air Force says they know....

Bin Laden buried at sea, official says
Published May 2, 2011
By Jim Garamone
American Forces Press Service

Osama bin Laden received a Muslim ceremony as he was buried at sea, a senior defense official said here May 2.

The religious rites were performed aboard the aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson in the North Arabian Sea, the official said, and occurred within 24 hours of the terrorist leader's death.

"Preparations for at-sea (burial) began at 1:10 a.m. Eastern Standard Time and were completed at 2 a.m.," the official said.

The burial followed traditional Muslim burial customs, the official said, and bin Laden's body was washed and placed in a white sheet.

"The body was placed in a weighted bag. A military officer read prepared religious remarks, which were translated into Arabic by a native speaker," the official added.

Afterward, bin Laden's body was placed onto a flat board, which was then elevated upward on one side and the body slid off into the sea. more.... ( "Official United States Air Force Website" )

Source: https://www.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/113451/bin-laden-buried-at-sea-official-says/


59 posted on 06/09/2024 7:23:11 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Rummyfan

What a phony he is.


60 posted on 06/09/2024 7:37:36 AM PDT by kenmcg (ti hi o)
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