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Israel begrudgingly accepts Biden’s Gaza deal: ‘Not a good plan’
Fox News ^ | 6/2/2024 | Anders Hagstrom

Posted on 06/02/2024 7:52:47 AM PDT by logi_cal869

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To: Sarah Barracuda
America is already doomed we didnt need the Trump verdict to confirm it

Did we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

101 posted on 06/02/2024 10:41:12 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Moltke

you forget that Kamala told us she had read the maps - that was her new assignment- and said there was nowhere for Rafah-niks to go (oops Israels managed to move out about 1 million of them).


102 posted on 06/02/2024 10:42:44 AM PDT by avital2 ("n)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I wont believe ANY of this til it comes out of BiBi’s mouth..I dont believe for one second he will say I surrender I just dont believe it


103 posted on 06/02/2024 10:42:48 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
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104 posted on 06/02/2024 10:52:10 AM PDT by SJackson (There is only one thing worse than fighting with allies, and that is fighting without them Churchill)
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To: logi_cal869

NO! What a rotten deal!


105 posted on 06/02/2024 10:52:26 AM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: logi_cal869

I could swear I saw this morning that Israel told Biden to pound sand.

Maybe I didn’t see that.


106 posted on 06/02/2024 10:55:32 AM PDT by dforest ( )
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To: Blue Highway

“is Biden secretly working with Hamas?”

Actually, it’s never been much of a secret.

Biden’s Jaded romance with Iran. 2015!

Years before Obama ran and reached out to adversaries like Iran, Biden was calling for engagement with IRAN meeting with its top diplomats. A critic derided him as “Tehran’s favorite senator.”

JOE OWES IRAN!

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/05/09/joe-biden-relationship-iran-485786

Joe visited Palestine’s pres near the end of his VP. Term.

Joe Biden formulated Isreal/Palestine/IRAN policy, not Obama.

Biden will also meet with Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas on Wednesday, and on Thursday he will hold talks with Jordan’s King Abdullah II.
March 2016

https://www.voanews.com/a/biden-visits-uae-ahead-of-stops-in-israel-jordan/3222621.html


107 posted on 06/02/2024 11:05:10 AM PDT by AuntB (Trump is our Ben Franklin - Brilliant, Boisterous, Brave and ALL AMERICAN!)
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To: Liz; All

Joe Biden formulated Isreal/Palestine/IRAN policy, not Obama.

Biden will also meet with Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas on Wednesday, and on Thursday he will hold talks with Jordan’s King Abdullah II.
March 2016

https://www.voanews.com/a/biden-visits-uae-ahead-of-stops-in-israel-jordan/3222621.html

People underestimate the influence and damage of Joe Biden.
Fact is, He’s been undermining Isreal and proping up Iran/Hamas for decades.
Biden was in charge of the big money deal with Iran from the beginning, not Obama.
Iran bought Joe Biden decades ago and IT’S all about paying off his debt now.

Biden did nothing as senator or VP that didn’t profit him and his family personally.

Snip ..
Joe Biden’s jaded romance with Iran. 2015

In fact, years before Barack Obama ran for president on a platform that included reaching out to adversaries like Iran, Biden was calling for engagement with the Middle Eastern nation, meeting with its top diplomats and even flirting with a visit. At one point, a critic derided him as “Tehran’s favorite senator.”

My, my!!!

Iran owns Joe’s butt people.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/05/09/joe-biden-relationship-iran-485786


108 posted on 06/02/2024 11:17:57 AM PDT by AuntB (Trump is our Ben Franklin - Brilliant, Boisterous, Brave and ALL AMERICAN!)
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To: AuntB

Yawn......doesnt make any difference who’s president. America’s interests always come last.

Obama’s $38 billion Israeli deal that covered fiscal years 2019-2028 included:
<><>-annual US payments to Israel of $3.3 billion in “military financing,”
<><>-$500 million a year for Israel’s missile defense operations in the Negev, a foreign aid first,
<><>-A phasing-out of Israel’s decades-long “special arrangement”
<><>ie. Israel used 26.3% of US aid on its own global defense industry (not on US-made weapons).
<><>-Eliminates Israel using some 13% of US aid to buy military fuel.
<><>-will allow Israel to update “the lion’s share” of its fighter aircraft,
<><>includes purchasing additional F-35 Joint Strike Fighters.
<><>Israel is to initially receive thirty-three F-35 aircraft,
<><>the first two F-35’s will be delivered in December.

The (a) weaponry build-up from Obama 2018 into 2028, (b) follows the $30 billion weaponry deal Israel signed in 2007, which expires at the end of fiscal 2018, and (c) a systematic buildup of Israeli arms, like this one in 2015.

https://www.dsca.mil/press-media/major-arms-sales/israel-joint-direct-attack-munition-tail-kits-and-munitions

ISRAEL – JOINT DIRECT ATTACK MUNITION TAIL KITS AND MUNITIONS
Defense Security Cooperation Agency
Media/Public Contact
pm-cpa@state.gov
Transmittal No 15-36

WASHINGTON, May 19, 2015
As required by US law, the Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale to Israel on May 18, 2015: Joint Direct Attack Munition Tail Kits, munitions, and associated equipment, parts and logistical support for an estimated cost of $1.879 billion.

The Government of Israel has requested:
<><>14,500 KMU-556C/B Joint Direct Attack Munitions (JDAM) tail kits
<><>consisting of 10,000 for Mk-84;
<><>500 for Mk-83;
<><>and,4,000 for Mk-82;
<><>3,500 Mk-82 bombs; 4,500 Mk-83 bombs;
<><>50 BLU-113 bombs;
<><>4,100 GBU-39 Small Diameter bombs;
<><>1,500 Mk-83 Paveway kits;
<><>700 BLU-109 Paveway kits;
<><>3,000 AGM-114K/R Hellfire Missiles,
<><>250 AIM-120C Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missiles;
<><>and 500 DSU-38A/B Detector Laser Illuminated Target kits for JDAMs.

The proposed sale of this equipment will provide Israel
<><>the ability to support its self-defense needs
<><>enable Israel to maintain operational capability of its existing systems
<><>and will enhance Israel’s interoperability with the United States.

Israel already has these US munitions in its inventory, and will have no difficulty absorbing the additional US munitions into its armed forces.


All questions regarding this proposed Foreign Military Sale should be directed to the State Department’s Bureau of Political Military Affairs, Office of Congressional and Public Affairs, pm-cpa@state.gov.


109 posted on 06/02/2024 11:30:45 AM PDT by Liz (This then is how we should pray: Our Father who art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name . )
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To: Jim Noble
The Israeli Left is possible the worst in the world. Next to ours.

His point was that a lot of them are the same people.


Many are one and the same. For pure hard Leftist dedication it's really hard to surpass the Israelis Left.

For pure disconnected, disassociated political viciousness and nihilism, it's hard to beat the American Jewish Left.

These people take their Leftism very seriously the combination of the two makes for a really toxic mix, especially since many are dual citizens or Israelis who have a safe haven base in the US so they are insulated from the ultimate consequences of their political actions.

One major reason that Hamas was able pull of the Oct 7 attack was the general attitudes of the Left ranging from their bitter jihad against Netanyahu and pretty much everyone else in Israeli society who does not agree with their childishly extreme views to the incomparable stupidity and lack of awareness of the Leftist Re'im Kibbutz staging the Supernova music festival right on the Gaza border on the 50th anniversary of the Yom Kippur War

How can such smart people believe such dumb things and do such stupid crap?

110 posted on 06/02/2024 11:56:55 AM PDT by rdcbn1
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To: dforest

Me, too.

That’s why I cited the ‘money quote’ (the curious ‘interview’).

[DS at work?]


111 posted on 06/02/2024 11:59:50 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: logi_cal869

Israel didn’t have to take this, but they did. Quit taking US money and tell The admin to go to hell.

You can’t blame this all on one party. It took both to okay it.


112 posted on 06/02/2024 12:00:05 PM PDT by dforest ( )
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To: logi_cal869

THIS IS FALSE “NEWS” IMO.

BIBI would NEVER let ISRAEL DOWN.


113 posted on 06/02/2024 12:09:40 PM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: ridesthemiles

Revered Rav Ovadia Yosef called for then-Prime Minister Ariel Sharon to be struck down by illness after Israel’s withdrawal from the Gaza Strip in 2005. Sharon suffered a debilitating stroke in January 2006.


114 posted on 06/02/2024 12:26:37 PM PDT by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: ridesthemiles

Fox is lying.


115 posted on 06/02/2024 12:38:55 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: SJackson

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2024/06/bidens-deal-gives-hamas-everything-it-wanted


116 posted on 06/02/2024 12:40:22 PM PDT by combat_boots
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To: ridesthemiles
THIS IS FALSE “NEWS” IMO.

At the time, I didn't find what's cited below. But both before and now I would normally agree 100%:

A senior adviser to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has confirmed that while there is still work that needs to be done on a hostage release deal presented by US President Joe Biden, Israel has agreed to the framework.

“There are a lot of details to be worked out and that includes there will not be a permanent ceasefire until all our objectives are met,” Ophir Falk told Britain’s Sunday Times newspaper.

According to the report, Falk stressed that Israel was not rejecting the deal, which he characterized as “a deal we agreed to — it’s not a good deal but we dearly want the hostages released, all of them.”

But, echoing an earlier statement by Netanyahu, Falk added that Israel’s conditions to end the war in Gaza, sparked by Hamas’s October 7 massacre, “have not changed — the release of the hostages and the destruction of Hamas as a genocidal terrorist organization.”

Senior Netanyahu adviser: Israel okayed Biden-touted hostage deal, but work needed

Unresolved is whether the cited comments are in context with his actual statements made to the Sunday Times...

Frankly, this sounds as though they're playing the zero cabal with doublespeak: I see no softening of their stance on the destruction of hamas (yet). We shall see...

117 posted on 06/02/2024 1:26:24 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: rdcbn1

That “festival” was 1.8 km from the fence.

The GAE everywhere it goes pushes depravity in the faces of the people they are conquering.


118 posted on 06/02/2024 1:31:01 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et de phrases)
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To: one guy in new jersey

I hope that the Israelis stay with their plan to exterminate Hamas!


119 posted on 06/02/2024 3:58:03 PM PDT by Taxman ((SAVE AMERICA! VOTE REPUBLICAN IN 2024! SAVE AMERICA!))
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To: ProtectOurFreedom; Eleutheria5; GOPJ
Israel: Ok, we agree.

(whispers to hidden mike): Not really.

Hamas: Ok, we agree.

(whispers to hidden mike): Not really.

My prediction: Biden is not going to like it when this flares up again before the election.

120 posted on 06/02/2024 4:46:54 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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