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I'm not a lawyer but from watching TV I seem to recall the judge asking the defendant "Do you understand the charges?"

Was this done?

1 posted on 05/29/2024 9:26:39 PM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

“Business Insider”. Enough said.


2 posted on 05/29/2024 9:32:40 PM PDT by Nervous Tick ("First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people...": ISLAM is the problem!)
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It’s a violation of the Sixth Amendment.

The defendant must know the charges against him.

The Prosecution had to meet with Merchan ex-parte and they decided the felony charge would be a shape shifter. They would keep it from Trump’s team and thus he would be unable to present expert witnesses to demonstrate his innocence.

At the end, Merchan tells the Jury the second Charge (felony) can be any number of things, whatever you feel good with personally, and the next Juror can believe he’s not guilty of that crime but can be comfortable with another Crime - all in order to get Trump.


3 posted on 05/29/2024 9:33:16 PM PDT by OakOak (Misinformation Campaign on your TV)
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There were a number of charges.

If 1/12 of the jurors thought he was guilty of a different
crime, there could be 12/12 thinking he broke the law, but
only one thinking he had broken any certain crime.

That’s enough to convict? Seriously?

This judge is lost in space.


4 posted on 05/29/2024 9:50:07 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands. )
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Business Insider has nothing to do with Business. It is just a leftist rag. Laura Italiano? WTH? Were her mom and dad hippies that liked dancing to Rosemary Clooney or something?


5 posted on 05/29/2024 10:03:04 PM PDT by willk (Local news media. Just as big an enemy to this country as national media)
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Not required, at least in CA state court. I can tomato e a judge having that conversation. First, almost all defendants are represented by the public defend a to private counsel. Second, for the rare self-represented party it would be very difficult to have that conversation without him endangering g his 5th amendment rights by wa ting to discuss the facts


6 posted on 05/29/2024 10:15:09 PM PDT by j.havenfarm (23 years on Free Republic, 12/10/23! More than 8,000 replies and still not shutting up!)
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From watching TV and seeing the defendent fall asleep on occasion, I kept wondering is this a strategy, or is he so unconcerned with the outcome he is not drinking enough coffee to stay awake. In a complex trial is is certainly difficult to keep track of everything if you are not wide awake.

I saw a presentation of the instructions to the Jury, and while complex, they seemed clear as presented. I presume the defendent was in the room when these instructions were given. They included several dozen specific charges, and 3 different aspects that needed to be considered while making conclusions about guilt or innocence regarding each of these charges. I’m sure the defendent’s lawyers took extensive notes, or received transcripts of these instructions and can make them clear to their client. The jury has been asking the Judge to clarify some of these items.


10 posted on 05/30/2024 1:52:37 AM PDT by gleeaikin ( Question authority.)
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New? He’s been complaining (justifiably) about this all along.


13 posted on 05/30/2024 3:56:27 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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I am not a lawyer, but I was under the impression all Americans are assumed to be innocent until proven guilty. And since Trump was not even charged much less found guilty of a federal campaign crime, how can that be used to make this book keeping item into a felony?


14 posted on 05/30/2024 4:18:56 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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That is not a new spin; Bragg said on the day of the indictment that he did not have to identify a crime.


16 posted on 05/30/2024 4:26:30 AM PDT by odawg
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He’s right. The “Judge’s instructions” are a legal fallacy. The End.


17 posted on 05/30/2024 4:37:38 AM PDT by Shady (The Force of Liberty must prevail for the sake of our Children and Grandchildren...)
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Praying praying praying that the jurors will hear and understand facts and truth today. They’re not sequestered, so there’s a chance they’ll be exposed to just one little thing that will convince them to do the right thing.

And why doesn’t our side dox and threaten jurors the way the left does? We’re always too nice to fight fire with fire.


18 posted on 05/30/2024 4:44:02 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Navarro didn't kill himself.)
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So if Trumps limo driver drove too fast on the way to Trump’s office so he could sign a check, then the underlying crime is speeding and since the limo driver is in the employ of Trump, then it’s Trump responsibility to stop any illegal action or it will be used as a means to boot strap up a charge against Trump?

Gee I wonder if Alvin Bragg’s driver has ever drove too fast? Maybe on the way to Trump’s trial for example…. 🤔🤔🤔🤔

21 posted on 05/30/2024 5:20:08 AM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting…)
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When the prosecution adds tax evasion to the list of charges DURING closing arguments, who can possibly understand what’s going on?

They don’t care if it gets overturned. The rats are interested only in being able to call Trump a felon.

It will backfire spectacularly.


22 posted on 05/30/2024 5:20:09 AM PDT by cyclotic (Don’t be part of the problem. Be the entire problem)
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LOL! That’s not a “new trial spin”! From the beginning attorneys on both sides of the political aisle have written articles and questioned the nature of the exact crimes of which Trump has been charged. Some said, “I’m sure it will be clearer once the trial starts”. That hasn’t happened. The charges are about as clear as mud.

Even the Judge doesn’t seem to have a grasp on the actual charges so he had to get creative with the jury instructions. He finally settled on “just find Trump guilty of something”.


29 posted on 05/30/2024 6:27:39 AM PDT by CFW
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Nobody knows, but I’m sure a jury of Democrats will figure out he’s guilty some how.


33 posted on 05/30/2024 7:11:23 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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