Rules of Engagement (2000)
We're not allowed to go to war anymore.
Posted on 05/26/2024 7:53:12 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
Russia is managing to produce artillery shells at triple the speed of Ukraine’s allies for a quarter of the price, Sky News reported on May 26, referencing analysis from management consulting firm Bain & Company.
Using publicly available data, the firm claims that Russian factories can produce or refurbish 4.5 million 152 mm shells this year for $1,000 per round. European countries and the U.S. are only expected to produce 1.3 million 155 mm shells combined, at an average cost of $4,000 per unit.
Slow artillery production has hindered Ukraine’s progress on the battlefield. Soldiers claim that for every round they fire, Russia launches around five back.
A Senior Lieutenant with the 57th Brigade in Kharkiv Oblast, where Russia launched a new offensive on May 10, told Sky News that Ukraine urgently needs more supplies. However, he added that Ukrainian soldiers are making every round count and are able to destroy a target with one, two, or three shells.
(Excerpt) Read more at kyivindependent.com ...
Just out of curiosity....is it that difficult to make a 155mm shell?
That depends on the shell, there are many different 155 shells.
Longer range, one shot-one kill shells are more expensive than the simple area shells.
I have not seen posted if an all out nuke exchange WW3 between US and Russia would render the entirety of both countries uninhabitable for the survivors of the initial blasts. Fires and fall out. If not, I wonder if both countries survivors would eventually rebuild something?
Personally, given everything, including civil defense, I suspect that if any country survives, it will be Russia. We never prioritized survival from a nuclear blast, while they did, at least through Soviet times, and are probably preparing for that as we speak.
Our ‘leaders’ are TOTALLY CLUELESS.
I would think a blanking press a few deep draw presses, and an annealing furnace, mostly.
Their subway stations are bomb shelters.
In the late 60s/70s they were actually more worried about getting nuked by the ChiComs.
“Their subway stations are bomb shelters. In the late 60s/70s they were actually more worried about getting nuked by the ChiComs.”
Regardless, they’ll help against anyone stupid enough to start WW3, including the Neocons.
Russia lives in a bad neighborhood of people as nasty as they are, if they suffered a nuclear exchange they would be devoured by opportunistic neighbors like China and elements within their sphere.
LOL !
The Zeepers on here turn out to be Madame Defarges and MIC Swamp clowns.
“...we are going to drop our way of fighting, mothball our military assets such as aircraft, bombers, and missiles and switch to meeting Russia in mass artillery battles...”
So the USA supposedly has a military that is optimized for counter-terrorism, not actual war against real opponents ?
But a terrorist group has been blockading the Suez Canal for 5 months, and the US and its allies can’t deal with that either.
The USA MIC is a trillion dollar military of nothing, that can’t produce artillery shells and can’t defeat the Houthis.
And the rest of NATO is a low budget version of the same.
Explains why Joe had to ask South Korea and Japan to send artillery shells to Zelensky.
No.
You need a 1000-3000 ton forging press for the steel shells.
The problem for the USA is that there appears to be only one company in the USA still making such presses, and they appear to have less than 50 empoloyees.
https://www.linkedin.com/company/ajaxcecoeriepress
We'll keep it in mind.
Rules of Engagement (2000)
We're not allowed to go to war anymore.
All good points.
That won't matter if you can't make them fast enough, or in the quantity you need, then get them where they need to be. That goes for all wars. This country could never do what it did in WWII to supply our branches of the military in different theaters of war.
It’s not the ROE against an opponent like Russia.
Far too small munitions production means you lose, regardless of the ROE.
Precisely. I just posted this link to a British documentary series titled "War Factories," which I believe is available to view for free on YouTube. It is excellent. It's a three season series, 22 episodes that aired between 2019-2022. The storyline for the series reads: "This series is more than the story of war production, it's the untold story of World War II. No matter how many soldiers or how clever the generals, how daring the strategy, a war cannot be won if there are not enough weapons or food."
Here's the IMDb page for the series:
Part of the introduction of each episode includes this comment:
"All wars are about competition and production. The side that can produce more is always going to triumph."
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