Replies

NATO societies are in NO WAY ready for a true-war time footing

If NATO troops get involved, with the mass casualties that entails, it will result in the collapse of Western Governments.

NATO strategy isn't trench warfare. If us and Russia went all out, it'll be a near-repeat of the Gulf invasion. Artillery doesn't do anything when your primary asset is air power. Russia has zero capability to invade anyone more than what, 200 mi from their border? And that's with Ukraine having little ability to hit Russia proper or their weak logistics lines. Russia is a land power, and would be on an entirely defensive footing the entire war. The only thing that might do something is a few lucky shots from their S-400/500s, but those aren't gonna last long. Even against Ukraine, they aren't leaving those radars running 24/7 cause they don't want to lose them. And once they lose that little bit of AA coverage, what does their 5:1 artillery advantage do for them?

NATO strategy isn't trench warfare. If us and Russia went all out, it'll be a near-repeat of the Gulf invasion.

I'm trying to understand what NATO's purpose and specific goals would be to escalate the present proxy/logistics/supply war, to the next step of having NATO troops on the ground.

Russia is ZERO strategic threat to the EU or USA anywhere else in the world. So is it merely to extend and preserve Ukraine's client status to NATO?

So that means NATO fighting in Ukraine. And how do they intend to "defeat" Russia - on Russia's own borders no less? This is attempting a feat which the Ottomans, French, English, Germans (twice) have been unable to achieve in the last 200 years.

Good luck with that. Please don't involve me or my kin in this fantasy.