Posted on 05/23/2024 10:49:14 AM PDT by george76
Given a choice between granting amnesty to illegal immigrants and deporting all of them, Americans voters favor deportation by a double-digit margin.
The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that, if given a choice between two candidates, one of whom favored granting amnesty to illegal aliens and one of whom favored deporting all illegal aliens, 52% of Likely U.S. Voters would vote for the candidate who favored deportation. Thirty-six percent (36%) would vote for the candidate who favored amnesty, while 12% are undecided.
Give amnesty and citizenship to all the illegals and then execute all democrats. Fair is fair. /spit
You have described the orderly immigration environment most of us hoped we were living in. But along with rampant and significant election corruption, the enforcement of immigration laws has been corrupted.
My comment above suggests the fact that many "illegals" were transported via Executive Branch directives and provided with settlement resources changes the setting. - i.e., the choice as stated to include amnesty misses the point.
IMO it would be far more effective to just to ask whether the immigration laws you set out ought to enforced.
In that regard, I fully expect the anti-MAGA Biden/Obama Admin (bent on "remaking America") will attempt to bestow with his final act a preemptive pardon on all who may be in the U.S. on his last day in office.
Only viable solution: M A S S D E P O R T A T I O N
At the very least. But, they are criminals. How about some prison time somewhere?
What happens if someone, anyone, sneaks across the border of any other country in the world?
Mebbe ship them to Haiti to help clean up.
It doesn’t matter they’re all going back.
Unconstitutional. He doesn't have the power any more than he has the power to make DACA recipients citizens. He would be dealing with an entire class of people, which is not possible under existing immigration law. Congress would have to do it in the form of a law. Reagan's 1986 amnesty was the result of a law passed by Congress and signed by the President.
Does the pardon power apply to non-citizen, illegal aliens? Doubt it.
Amnesty for Illegal = Oxymoron
Mass deportations by trebuchet!
no more amnesties for illegals. Every couple decades they amnesty and nothing about our borderS get secured. Trump tried the best in recent years, but joey ruined that in a hurry.
In their own
I’ll take Mass Deportations For $100 Alex.
Black's Law Dctionary, 11th ed.
amnesty. n. [16c] 1. A pardon extended by the government to a group or class of persons, usu. for a political offense; the act of a sovereign power officially forgiving certain classes of persons who are subject to trial but have not yet been convicted undocumented aliens already present in the country> • Unlike an ordinary pardon amnesty is usu. addressed to crimes against state sovereignty — that is to political offenses with respect tol which forgiveness is deemed more expedient for the public welfare than prosecution and punishment. Amnesty is usu. general, addressed to classes or even communities. — Also termed general pardon.
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An electronic search indicates the word undocumented does not appear in the Act of 1986. In 1986, undocumented had not yet entered the realm of verbal polution.
https://www.congress.gov/99/statute/STATUTE-100/STATUTE-100-Pg3445.pdf
"Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986".
The Act contains some relevant titles.
TITLE I—CONTROL OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION"SEC. 274A. (a) MAKING EMPLOYMENT OF UNAUTHORIZED ALIENS UNLAWFUL.—
TITLE V—STATE ASSISTANCE FOR INCARCERATION COSTS OF ILLEGAL ALIENS AND CERTAIN CUBAN NATIONALS
Sec. 501. Reimbursement of States for costs of incarcerating illegal aliens and certain Cuban nationals.
Deport. If they won’t leave... shoot them as either invading combatants or trespassers.
DEPORT-—
LEAVE NO ONE HERE WHO DOESN’T BELONG HERE
Send them back!
Does the pardon power apply to non-citizen, illegal aliens? Doubt it.
Noncitizens clearly have U.S. Constitutional protections. Do you think this Admin would hesitate to face a challenge on that issue?
This regime is lawless. They even ignore SCOTUS rulings. It is up to the GOP and us to hold them accountable. We have a rogue government.
You may have buggered up your cut and paste of Black's definition. It doesn't much matter. The Congress essentially pardons with Acts, while the president does something a lot easier and often more self-serving. [;^)
You may have buggered up your cut and paste of Black's definition.
It was not a cut and paste but typing what is in the book. The book used "greater than" and "less than" brackets which caused some content to be interpreted as unprinted invalid html code. I have replaced with curly brackets. Sorry about that.
Amnesty
Black's Law Dctionary, 11th ed.
amnesty. n. [16c] 1. A pardon extended by the government to a group or class of persons, usu. for a political offense; the act of a sovereign power officially forgiving certain classes of persons who are subject to trial but have not yet been convicted {the 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act provided amnesty for undocumented aliens already present in the country} • Unlike an ordinary pardon amnesty is usu. addressed to crimes against state sovereignty — that is to political offenses with respect to which forgiveness is deemed more expedient for the public welfare than prosecution and punishment. Amnesty is usu. general, addressed to classes or even communities. — Also termed general pardon.
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