Posted on 05/22/2024 3:21:52 AM PDT by cotton1706
Fifteen incumbent Republican legislators, including Senate President Pro Tem Chuck Winder, R-Boise; Sen. Scott Herndon, R-Sagle; and Rep. Julianne Young, R-Blackfoot; lost their re-election bids Tuesday, according to unofficial primary election results released by the state and counties.
Winder, the highest ranking member of the Idaho Senate, lost to Republican challenger Josh Keyser in the District 20, Idaho Senate Republican primary election. With 100% of Ada County precincts reporting, Keyser secured a 281-vote victory over Winder, according to the Ada County Elections Office.
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The headline literally says “primary election results”.
Having control and doing the right thing are two different things.
You think you can shut down the government with no consequences.
Trump shut it down...and it didn't work...and I believe it was the longest shut down ever.
What it doesn;t say is that it’s a closed primary...for Republicans only.
Perhaps we need to have a refresher about what the word “primary“ means.
None of the things I listed would have required the shutdown of the government.
Ukraine Aid is the perfect example, that sat on the table for a few months until Mike Johnson caved and the aid was passed.
there was never a chance the government was going to be shutdown.
Same goes for FISA reauthorization, same for individual budget deals versus Omnibus.
The Republicans gave up on things that never threatened the shutdown of Government.
I make me nervous when folks comment on headlines w/o reading the articles.
In that case, you better find another forum.
In the old days, reading before posting was considered against the rules.
While that rule may or may not have fallen out of disuse, there are now a significant number of people who post claiming to have read articles, but if one bothers to read the article one discovers that reading comprehension is in the garbage. I’d rather have someone honestly posting at the headline than accidentally posting misinformation after attempting to understand the article and failing.
While I do come here for news, I come first for the jokes and secondly for insightful commentary—together which, in a good thread, may make up a third of the posts.
Most concise solid post on the thread so far.
Hopefully someone from Idaho will pick up the white courtesy phone soon.
What could possibly go wrong?
Control of the House is a big deal if you have the will to use the power of the purse and stick together. Look what Pelosi did with a slim majority. One out of three can stop a President’s agenda.
The GOP acts like a minority even when they have majority. Conversely, the Dems act like they have the majority when in the minority.
Schumer has a two vote majority in the Senate and governs like he has a mandate.
Yep. Last thing we need is to end up with democrats winning these seats. They won’t win them all, but this is how it begins. See Georgia and Arizona.
Can real republicans win every seat?
We need a scorecard from someone who knows. Were these a bunch of RINOs who got taken out?
I’d first want to know just how these ‘incumbents’ voted - what their records the past two years have been before I decide if I’m worried about it. Their positions on abortion, wasted money thrown at Ukraine, Covid 19 vaccine, illegal immigration......all that stuff. Without knowing all that those GOP’ers might as well just be RINOs.
The most significant include the 21-day shutdown of 1995–1996, during President Bill Clinton’s administration, over opposition to major spending cuts; the 16-day shutdown in 2013, during the Barack Obama administration, caused by a dispute over implementation of the Affordable Care Act (ACA); and the longest, the 35-day shutdown of 2018–2019, during the Donald Trump administration,[caused by a dispute over expanding barriers on the U.S.–Mexico border.
Rush Limbaugh on government shutdowns.
https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2019/01/28/what-happened-to-all-the-shutdown-suffering/
“I’d first want to know just how these ‘incumbents’ voted -”
That’s a very good approach.
Five of the 15 who were defeated had perfect 100% conservative voting records in 2023 (4 of those 5 were freshmen and the other had a 95% lifetime rating). So the ignoranti who simply assume that EVERY defeated GOP politician surely must be a “RINO” are lazy and uninformed, as usual.
The other 10 incumbents who lost do not qualify as conservative at all and most of those 10 don’t even qualify as moderates, so there were definitely some good results too.
See post 36.
There isn’t an Idaho ping list, unfortunately. I took a quick look to find out if this is good news. On Keyser it is. Unfortunately, Young & Herndon look like the good guys & they got taken out. Lots of leftist money here now to stop Constitutionalists/Conservatives.
Heather Scott (one of the good ones) had a list of her choices for these races. If you’re on Facebook, you can see her list here:
https://www.facebook.com/stopidahorinos/
Interesting, thanks. So 10 of these results are good and 5 are bad.
Herndon, Young, Trakel, Gallagher and Lambert had 100% conservative ratings from the ACU for 2023. All but Young were freshmen and Young had a 94% lifetime rating.
Not one of the other 10 even had a lifetime rating as high as 80 and most were much lower than that.
There’s more to a politician than their vote score of course, but how they vote on the important issues is #1 on the list regarding whether they can be trusted or not.
Some Republican’s “constituency service” such as getting a traffic light installed at a dangerous intersection doesn’t (and shouldn’t) carry much weight when he votes like a Democrat nearly half the time.
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