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Trump vs. Biden Polls: Joe May Need a Rust Belt Sweep
New York Magazine ^ | 5/21/2024 | Ed Kilgore

Posted on 05/21/2024 6:51:39 AM PDT by Redmen4ever

It’s the battleground-state polling that should be most alarming to Team Biden for the simple reason that he is consistently trailing in three Sun Belt states (Arizona, Georgia, Nevada) that were crucial to his 2020 win. If they (along with another competitive southern state, North Carolina) appear out of reach for the incumbent later in the campaign season, his path to victory may depend on a sweep in three highly competitive Rust Belt states: Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.

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KEYWORDS: biden; poll; polls; trump
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Biden trails in the three states of Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, but by only 1 or 2 points. The small Trump lead gives the D's hope that - by concentrating resources in these three states - they can essentially do what Trump did in 20216: pull out a win in the electoral college while losing the nationwide popular vote.

And, controlling the executive branch of each of these three rust belt states, the Democrats will be tempted to step up their Get Out the Vote effort among the dead and other illegal voters.

Trump does well to expand the field.

With the other states in which he is leading, Trump is one Electoral Vote short of 269 and a tie in the Electoral College. That one EV could come from Nebraska's 2nd Congressional District. Most pundits consider that district to be a toss-up.

(Psst: It would be good if the extreme left-wing candidates of Cornell West and Jill Stein are on the ballot in Nebraska.)

Plus, Trump is within two points of Biden in Minnesota and Maine-at large. Trump should target those states.

And this is something that is really, really big. Virginia. Trump is within three points of Biden in the Old Dominion, and can immediately put this state into play by naming our governor, Glenn Youngkin, his running mate.

Another state that could come into play is New Hampshire, where a recent poll indicates the state is currently tied. While suggestive, it's only one poll.

Youngkin would help solidify the Republican Party, which would help in the crucial states of Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, and Minnesota, and also in New Hampshire and Maine, in addition to his own state of Virginia.

And, by spreading the field, the Democrats won't be able to concentrate their resources on a few states only. Indeed, with up to ten competitive Senate races, several competitive Governor races, and several dozen competitive House races, the Democrats will have to consider salvaging what they can in downticket races.

It is possible Trump and the Republicans will score a big, smashing victory this fall, enabling Trump to govern effectively and really Make America Great Again.

1 posted on 05/21/2024 6:51:39 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: Redmen4ever
Meh.

Thousands of cheat-by-mail-in ballots in selected Democrat strongholds will once again give Biden the 'win.'

2 posted on 05/21/2024 6:57:27 AM PDT by HandBasketHell
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To: Redmen4ever

“Team Biden” = SCUMBAGS supporting the CRIME family.


3 posted on 05/21/2024 6:57:50 AM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: Redmen4ever

Everyone’s giddy with the polls. If there were a clean election Trump would win in a landslide. I don’t think the deep state will allow it.

On the other hand, the deep state might play the long game and allow Trump to win, knowing its only 4 years and they can harrass the administration enough to disable them. Then, after 4 years, they’ll have a clean path to single party power.


4 posted on 05/21/2024 6:58:54 AM PDT by TiGuy22
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To: Redmen4ever

Republicans should be changing thr Nebraska eletoral vote so the Rat strategy will net them 269.


5 posted on 05/21/2024 6:59:58 AM PDT by wiseprince (Me)
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To: Redmen4ever

There is ZERO chance Biden can sweep the Rust Belt.

The most probable path, and not very likely , that would allow Biden to stay in office would be Dems hold AZ and only lose WI in the rust belt..

If AZ is lost by Dems (which it looks like it will handily be) only path is to hold all the rust belt and that is not possible for Biden.

However by Election Day, unless something drastically changes, the discussion will no be “will Joe Biden lose?” It be just how many states Biden is going to llose and how bad down ballot is going to be for the Dems.

With third parties back on the ballot and no covid to
Cover up their hanky panky, Biden was structurally in the hole from the start.. they can’t hide him in a basement and frarmonger about Trump and win.

All but the newest voters have lived both guys as president and by every single measure Trump’s administration was far better. Biden, with RFK on the ballot will struggle to be at 35-40% nationally by November unless something drastically changes.


6 posted on 05/21/2024 7:05:05 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Redmen4ever

I am not sure we should believe polls so unquestioningly this time. A bit jarring that after decades of mocking polls, everyone here has become a poll fan.


7 posted on 05/21/2024 7:07:30 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: nwrep

We are fans of these polls , because Trump is doing well in the polls recently. We want to be cautiously optimistic that this will translate into a victory in the election.


8 posted on 05/21/2024 7:10:07 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Redmen4ever

NevaDUH? Pretty sure Clark and Washoe county will see him through. Another reason for one county, one electoral vote.


9 posted on 05/21/2024 7:10:49 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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To: Redmen4ever

Well ,, since he is a former auto worker with an engineering degree he should be able to pull that off


10 posted on 05/21/2024 7:16:55 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: HamiltonJay

I remember the Republicans were suppose to have a massive tidal wave election recently.
Red Wave NEVER materialized!

The cheat WILL STILL BE ON!!
Republicans didn’t hardly lift a finger to counteract mail-in ballot stuffing from last Presidential cycle because THEY’RE inept, and are afraid to lead!
I pray I’m wrong!


11 posted on 05/21/2024 7:38:20 AM PDT by bantam
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To: nwrep

Well said!

Polls are meaningless at this point in “The Game.”

IMHO, the Trump Republicans should [MUST?] be organizing and staffing a humongous “Stop the Steal” operation.

You know, they know and we know they know that the LIEberal/Socialist/Marxist/Fascist/Communist Democrats have been working for YEARS perfecting their “Big Steal” operation!

In addition to a “Stop the Steal” operation, Trump Republicans had best get cracking on a 100,000,000 person Get Out the Vote effort!

If 100,000,000 Americans vote for President Trump, there is no way the LIEberal/Socialist/Marxist/Fascist/Communist Democrats can cheat enough to win!


12 posted on 05/21/2024 7:39:39 AM PDT by Taxman ((SAVE AMERICA! VOTE REPUBLICAN IN 2024! SAVE AMERICA!))
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To: Redmen4ever

No, Rutabaga is gonna get crushed. He will likely lose MN, NM, NH, ME, VA, and perhaps a couple of others.

He almost certainly will lost AZ, GA, WI, MI, PA and NV.


13 posted on 05/21/2024 7:39:39 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." Jimi Hendrix)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I’ve seen that on almost all political sites. If you’re side is doing well, “YAY POLLS!!” If your side is not doing well “FIXED, CORRUPT, FAKE”

Bias is a very ingrained thing for humans, especially on the more extreme ends of the political spectrum.


14 posted on 05/21/2024 7:40:14 AM PDT by LucyintheSky1
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To: Redmen4ever

Biden couldn’t possibly win an honest election in any of these states

But then again, the DNC ETM Election Theft Machine delivered them for Biden in 2020 and so...


15 posted on 05/21/2024 7:44:13 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (“Politicians are not born. They're excreted.” Marcus Tillius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: LS

FRom your mouth to God’s ear, Larry!


16 posted on 05/21/2024 7:45:54 AM PDT by Taxman ((SAVE AMERICA! VOTE REPUBLICAN IN 2024! SAVE AMERICA!))
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To: LS

More to the point, Larry, FRom your mouth to 100,000,000 American Trump voters!


17 posted on 05/21/2024 7:46:48 AM PDT by Taxman ((SAVE AMERICA! VOTE REPUBLICAN IN 2024! SAVE AMERICA!))
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To: bantam

The Red Wave never materialized because the Supreme Court leaked the Roe decision and Lindsay Graham torpedoed it by talking about a nationwide abortion ban..


18 posted on 05/21/2024 8:03:15 AM PDT by TallahasseeConservative (Isaiah 40:31)
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To: LS

From your post to GOD’S EARS!!!! May it be so!!!


19 posted on 05/21/2024 8:15:42 AM PDT by pollywog (" O thou who changest not....ABIDE with me")
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To: Redmen4ever

Those states are within the Margin of Fraud. Need a bigger buffer.


20 posted on 05/21/2024 8:21:56 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Finish the damned WALL! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH!)
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