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1 posted on 05/20/2024 5:49:37 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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None. This is a head fake by the ICC. They indict all the leaders of Hamas, and Netanyahu. Less than a day later Biden heroically comes out and says it’s unacceptable to arrest Netanyahu. It all gets dropped. ICC claims that is why Hamas leaders cannot be prosecuted.
Netanyahu was a poison pill to protect them from prosecuting Hamas.


2 posted on 05/20/2024 5:55:39 PM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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Well, now I guess both Vladimir Putin and Benjamin Netanyahu can’t travel to any but the most friendly nations.


3 posted on 05/20/2024 5:56:16 PM PDT by PGR88
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That is the question.


4 posted on 05/20/2024 5:56:26 PM PDT by xoxox
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The same one you were cheering on to arrest Putin. Putin, Bibi, not a dimes difference.


6 posted on 05/20/2024 5:59:18 PM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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Karim Khan is just another item on the Mossad's "to-do list".

7 posted on 05/20/2024 5:59:43 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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Every country that agreed to be a party of the ICC would have a duty to execute ICC arrest warrants I believe.

Every country that is a party to the Geneva Conventions would probably have a duty to arrest war criminals.

In theory, rogue IDF people could arrest Netanyahu and turn him over to the ICC.


8 posted on 05/20/2024 6:06:14 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Henry Kissinger had to be careful where he traveled due to potential court proceedings against him.

Netanyahu may have no worries now, but he may be limited where he can travel in future.

9 posted on 05/20/2024 6:08:22 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (Kafka was an optimist.)
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“there is no such thing as international law.”

The millions of invaders getting welfare funded by your hard work know the benefits to them of the Refugee Convention.


10 posted on 05/20/2024 6:08:37 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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What army will arrest bibi ?

The same army that will arrest Putin. None !

By the way bibi will be visiting USA and nothing will be done. Slap in the face to icc

Bibi will need to live out his retirement in Israel , even before this icc ruling he wasn’t going anywhere anyhow, so this makes no difference.


12 posted on 05/20/2024 6:18:01 PM PDT by forYourChildrenVote4Bush
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa%27s_genocide_case_against_Israel


14 posted on 05/20/2024 6:24:23 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Israel should declare the ICC as enemies of the state and hunt them all down.


15 posted on 05/20/2024 6:25:37 PM PDT by HYPOCRACY (Brandon's pronouns: Xi/Hur)
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I’ve been (mis) quoting Stalin for a few days now:

“How many Divisions Has the ICC?”.....

in a few places where I have posted that I get death wishes because I am “a lying zionist jew pig:”.


16 posted on 05/20/2024 6:26:17 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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Somebody in The Hague is doing a fine job replacing Jack Smith, if that’s really his name...


17 posted on 05/20/2024 6:26:29 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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19 posted on 05/20/2024 6:28:26 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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I say bring it and then level the ICC HQ


20 posted on 05/20/2024 6:40:14 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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Bibi has been facing corruption charges in Israel for a long time and has been delaying things, but sooner or later that will go to trial.


22 posted on 05/20/2024 6:49:47 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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“Just read the indictment.”

I know of no starvation of Gazans. If they were starving, we would have pictures of the emaciated.

“The siege also included cutting off cross-border water pipelines from Israel to Gaza – Gazans’ principal source of clean water – for a prolonged period beginning 9 October 2023, and cutting off and hindering electricity supplies from at least 8 October 2023 until today.”

There are millions of wells in the USA. If HAMAS can dig a tunnel, it can dig a well.

Electricity is nice, but generally non-essential. As for hospital generators, cars in Gaza have gas tanks.


23 posted on 05/20/2024 7:03:10 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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No army, but it could cramp his style considerably when it comes to doing diplomacy. Can't show up at international conferences and such.

Florid rhetoric aside, that may be the real point.

24 posted on 05/20/2024 7:04:25 PM PDT by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along. )
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Quotes from the indictment:

On the basis of evidence collected and examined by my Office, I have reasonable grounds to believe that Benjamin NETANYAHU, the Prime Minister of Israel, and Yoav GALLANT, the Minister of Defence of Israel, bear criminal responsibility for the following war crimes and crimes against humanity committed on the territory of the State of Palestine (in the Gaza strip) from at least 8 October 2023:

Starvation of civilians as a method of warfare as a war crime contrary to article 8(2)(b)(xxv) of the Statute;
Wilfully causing great suffering, or serious injury to body or health contrary to article 8(2)(a)(iii), or cruel treatment as a war crime contrary to article 8(2)(c)(i);
Wilful killing contrary to article 8(2)(a)(i), or Murder as a war crime contrary to article 8(2)(c)(i);
Intentionally directing attacks against a civilian population as a war crime contrary to articles 8(2)(b)(i), or 8(2)(e)(i);
Extermination and/or murder contrary to articles 7(1)(b) and 7(1)(a), including in the context of deaths caused by starvation, as a crime against humanity;
Persecution as a crime against humanity contrary to article 7(1)(h);
Other inhumane acts as crimes against humanity contrary to article 7(1)(k).

This occurred through the imposition of a total siege over Gaza that involved completely closing the three border crossing points, Rafah, Kerem Shalom and Erez, from 8 October 2023 for extended periods and then by arbitrarily restricting the transfer of essential supplies – including food and medicine – through the border crossings after they were reopened. The siege also included cutting off cross-border water pipelines from Israel to Gaza – Gazans’ principal source of clean water – for a prolonged period beginning 9 October 2023, and cutting off and hindering electricity supplies from at least 8 October 2023 until today. This took place alongside other attacks on civilians, including those queuing for food; obstruction of aid delivery by humanitarian agencies; and attacks on and killing of aid workers, which forced many agencies to cease or limit their operations in Gaza.


26 posted on 05/20/2024 7:09:02 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Article 8 - War crimes
War crimes

1. The Court shall have jurisdiction in respect of war crimes in particular when committed as part of a plan or policy or as part of a large-scale commission of such crimes.

2. For the purpose of this Statute, “war crimes” means:

(a) Grave breaches of the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949, namely, any of the following acts against persons or property protected under the provisions of the relevant Geneva Convention:

(i) Wilful killing;

(ii) Torture or inhuman treatment, including biological experiments;

(iii) Wilfully causing great suffering, or serious injury to body or health;

(iv) Extensive destruction and appropriation of property, not justified by military necessity and carried out unlawfully and wantonly;

(v) Compelling a prisoner of war or other protected person to serve in the forces of a hostile Power;

(vi) Wilfully depriving a prisoner of war or other protected person of the rights of fair and regular trial;

(vii) Unlawful deportation or transfer or unlawful confinement;

(viii) Taking of hostages.

(b) Other serious violations of the laws and customs applicable in international armed conflict, within the established framework of international law, namely, any of the following acts:

(i) Intentionally directing attacks against the civilian population as such or against individual civilians not taking direct part in hostilities;

(ii) Intentionally directing attacks against civilian objects, that is, objects which are not military objectives;

(iii) Intentionally directing attacks against personnel, installations, material, units or vehicles involved in a humanitarian assistance or peacekeeping mission in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations, as long as they are entitled to the protection given to civilians or civilian objects under the international law of armed conflict;

(iv) Intentionally launching an attack in the knowledge that such attack will cause incidental loss of life or injury to civilians or damage to civilian objects or widespread, long-term and severe damage to the natural environment which would be clearly excessive in relation to the concrete and direct overall military advantage anticipated;

(v) Attacking or bombarding, by whatever means, towns, villages, dwellings or buildings which are undefended and which are not military objectives;

(vi) Killing or wounding a combatant who, having laid down his arms or having no longer means of defence, has surrendered at discretion;

(vii) Making improper use of a flag of truce, of the flag or of the military insignia and uniform of the enemy or of the United Nations, as well as of the distinctive emblems of the Geneva Conventions, resulting in death or serious personal injury;

(viii) The transfer, directly or indirectly, by the Occupying Power of parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies, or the deportation or transfer of all or parts of the population of the occupied territory within or outside this territory;

(ix) Intentionally directing attacks against buildings dedicated to religion, education, art, science or charitable purposes, historic monuments, hospitals and places where the sick and wounded are collected, provided they are not military objectives;

(x) Subjecting persons who are in the power of an adverse party to physical mutilation or to medical or scientific experiments of any kind which are neither justified by the medical, dental or hospital treatment of the person concerned nor carried out in his or her interest, and which cause death to or seriously endanger the health of such person or persons;

(xi) Killing or wounding treacherously individuals belonging to the hostile nation or army;

(xii) Declaring that no quarter will be given;

(xiii) Destroying or seizing the enemy’s property unless such destruction or seizure be imperatively demanded by the necessities of war;

(xiv) Declaring abolished, suspended or inadmissible in a court of law the rights and actions of the nationals of the hostile party;

(xv) Compelling the nationals of the hostile party to take part in the operations of war directed against their own country, even if they were in the belligerent’s service before the commencement of the war;

(xvi) Pillaging a town or place, even when taken by assault;

(xvii) Employing poison or poisoned weapons;

(xviii) Employing asphyxiating, poisonous or other gases, and all analogous liquids, materials or devices;

(xix) Employing bullets which expand or flatten easily in the human body, such as bullets with a hard envelope which does not entirely cover the core or is pierced with incisions;

(xx) Employing weapons, projectiles and material and methods of warfare which are of a nature to cause superfluous injury or unnecessary suffering or which are inherently indiscriminate in violation of the international law of armed conflict, provided that such weapons, projectiles and material and methods of warfare are the subject of a comprehensive prohibition and are included in an annex to this Statute, by an amendment in accordance with the relevant provisions set forth in articles 121 and 123 ;

(xxi) Committing outrages upon personal dignity, in particular humiliating and degrading treatment;

(xxii) Committing rape, sexual slavery, enforced prostitution, forced pregnancy, as defined in article 7 , paragraph 2 (f), enforced sterilization, or any other form of sexual violence also constituting a grave breach of the Geneva Conventions;

(xxiii) Utilizing the presence of a civilian or other protected person to render certain points, areas or military forces immune from military operations;

(xxiv) Intentionally directing attacks against buildings, material, medical units and transport, and personnel using the distinctive emblems of the Geneva Conventions in conformity with international law;

(xxv) Intentionally using starvation of civilians as a method of warfare by depriving them of objects indispensable to their survival, including wilfully impeding relief supplies as provided for under the Geneva Conventions;

(xxvi) Conscripting or enlisting children under the age of fifteen years into the national armed forces or using them to participate actively in hostilities.

(c) In the case of an armed conflict not of an international character, serious violations of article 3 common to the four Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949, namely, any of the following acts committed against persons taking no active part in the hostilities, including members of armed forces who have laid down their arms and those placed hors de combat by sickness, wounds, detention or any other cause:

(i) Violence to life and person, in particular murder of all kinds, mutilation, cruel treatment and torture;

(ii) Committing outrages upon personal dignity, in particular humiliating and degrading treatment;

(iii) Taking of hostages;

(iv) The passing of sentences and the carrying out of executions without previous judgement pronounced by a regularly constituted court, affording all judicial guarantees which are generally recognized as indispensable.

(d) Paragraph 2 (c) applies to armed conflicts not of an international character and thus does not apply to situations of internal disturbances and tensions, such as riots, isolated and sporadic acts of violence or other acts of a similar nature.

(e) Other serious violations of the laws and customs applicable in armed conflicts not of an international character, within the established framework of international law, namely, any of the following acts:

(i) Intentionally directing attacks against the civilian population as such or against individual civilians not taking direct part in hostilities;

(ii) Intentionally directing attacks against buildings, material, medical units and transport, and personnel using the distinctive emblems of the Geneva Conventions in conformity with international law;

(iii) Intentionally directing attacks against personnel, installations, material, units or vehicles involved in a humanitarian assistance or peacekeeping mission in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations, as long as they are entitled to the protection given to civilians or civilian objects under the international law of armed conflict;

(iv) Intentionally directing attacks against buildings dedicated to religion, education, art, science or charitable purposes, historic monuments, hospitals and places where the sick and wounded are collected, provided they are not military objectives;

(v) Pillaging a town or place, even when taken by assault;

(vi) Committing rape, sexual slavery, enforced prostitution, forced pregnancy, as defined in article 7, paragraph 2 (f), enforced sterilization, and any other form of sexual violence also constituting a serious violation of article 3 common to the four Geneva Conventions;

(vii) Conscripting or enlisting children under the age of fifteen years into armed forces or groups or using them to participate actively in hostilities;

(viii) Ordering the displacement of the civilian population for reasons related to the conflict, unless the security of the civilians involved or imperative military reasons so demand;

(ix) Killing or wounding treacherously a combatant adversary;

(x) Declaring that no quarter will be given;

(xi) Subjecting persons who are in the power of another party to the conflict to physical mutilation or to medical or scientific experiments of any kind which are neither justified by the medical, dental or hospital treatment of the person concerned nor carried out in his or her interest, and which cause death to or seriously endanger the health of such person or persons;

(xii) Destroying or seizing the property of an adversary unless such destruction or seizure be imperatively demanded by the necessities of the conflict;

(f) Paragraph 2 (e) applies to armed conflicts not of an international character and thus does not apply to situations of internal disturbances and tensions, such as riots, isolated and sporadic acts of violence or other acts of a similar nature. It applies to armed conflicts that take place in the territory of a State when there is protracted armed conflict between governmental authorities and organized armed groups or between such groups.

3. Nothing in paragraph 2 (c) and (e) shall affect the responsibility of a Government to maintain or re-establish law and order in the State or to defend the unity and territorial integrity of the State, by all legitimate means.

https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/ihl-treaties/icc-statute-1998/article-8


27 posted on 05/20/2024 7:18:59 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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